How bad is the 4r70w?

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Old 07-17-2006, 10:45 AM
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How bad is the 4r70w?

I am looking a a 2001 SC F150 4X4 with 80k on it and wondering how you guys feel about this tranny? I know Ford doesn't make real good trannies and just wondering what I need to look for.

Also if I do get it besides a big tranny cooler what else can I do? The truck is on 35s, but will get regeared to 4.56s asap.
 
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Old 07-17-2006, 01:15 PM
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Not bad at all! It is a great tranny as long as you maintain it properly.
Do a shift modification on it, and it really wakes it up!
DO NOT USE TRANS-GO SHIFT KITS. Go to TCCOA.com, and read the tech articles in the transmission section there for information on what to do.
 
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Old 07-17-2006, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by dixiebandit69
Not bad at all! It is a great tranny as long as you maintain it properly.
Do a shift modification on it, and it really wakes it up!
DO NOT USE TRANS-GO SHIFT KITS. Go to TCCOA.com, and read the tech articles in the transmission section there for information on what to do.
Do not J-mod a truck valvebody in order to do those mods you need a car valvebody. I suggest the FactoryTech seperator plate kit as it was designed to be used on thruck valvebodies.
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Old 07-18-2006, 08:49 AM
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will adding a deeper ribbed pan help the tranny some?
 
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Old 07-18-2006, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by dirtyd0g
Do not J-mod a truck valvebody in order to do those mods you need a car valvebody. I suggest the FactoryTech seperator plate kit as it was designed to be used on thruck valvebodies.
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Where ca nthis be found/bought?
 
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Old 07-18-2006, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by ZachMan
will adding a deeper ribbed pan help the tranny some?
No. If you want the trans cooler, get a better cooler. A pan doesn't help cooling much.
 
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Old 07-18-2006, 09:57 AM
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No. If you want the trans cooler, get a better cooler. A pan doesn't help cooling much.
Well I am willing to do whatever to make it last longer.
 
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Old 07-18-2006, 12:18 PM
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I put in one of these...

http://www.troyerperformance.com/cgi...gno=PPI-ATCKIT

Granted I'm pulling a 6500# trailer in FL heat. I installed it before the Factory Aux tranny cooler. I also put in a tranny temp guage which I would recommend doing first if you're concerned about heat. You may not need a bigger/extra cooler if you're not going over 180-190 degrees-F. If you plan on doing hard offroading or towing then you may very well want the extra cooling.

edit: oh, 2002 5.4 3.55ls 4x2
 
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Old 07-18-2006, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ZachMan
Where ca nthis be found/bought?
Troyer sells these products as well as madferrari,myself and Factory Tech direct.
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Old 07-18-2006, 07:35 PM
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I have a '99 f-150 4x4 with a 5.4L and was wondering if a shift kit or a valve body recalibration kit will shorten the life of my transmission.
 
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Old 07-18-2006, 08:21 PM
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people will bolt everything on in an effort to increase performance but sometimes may forget to keep recycling hte fluid

change the fluid completely every 15-20k miles (10-15 if you tow hardcore). if you have a stock transmission cooler, it is usually more than adequate unless you tow large loads, even with tires and gears. a simpler way out for additional cooling capacity is adding a small e-fan to your stock cooler. plumbing for a larger cooler will leak if not done properly and is a hassle compared to crimping a few wires

my buddy put a gauge to his 2002 fx4 with 35's , tow package, and stock 3.73s, he stayed in a reasonable transmission temperature range the whole time, only coming barely into the yellow at a dead stop in 100 degree heat
 
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Old 07-18-2006, 08:45 PM
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Mine lasted 96k before acting up then I traded it in for my current truck.
 
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Originally Posted by hmustang
Mine lasted 96k before acting up then I traded it in for my current truck.
My 4r70w has over 198,000 original miles on it.

Just recently the overdrive started acting up. I figure with that many miles it has a right to act up. So soon I'll be putting the old Engine and Trany out to pasture. Time to install some fresh horses under the hood.

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Old 07-20-2006, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by dirtyd0g
Do not J-mod a truck valvebody in order to do those mods you need a car valvebody. I suggest the FactoryTech seperator plate kit as it was designed to be used on thruck valvebodies.
Alan
There isn't any real difference in the valvebody--In the article, he said that the best 4R70W to start with is one out of a 5.4L F150!
I did that on my truck, and it works like gangbusters.
 
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Old 07-20-2006, 02:34 PM
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time for me to swap mine out also
 

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