4x4 FX4 Coilovers installed on 2wd
Posted by Lever:
If the arms are the same on both a 4x2 and a 4x4 then you shouldnt get any extra strain on the joints with the coils from a 4x4. If that wasnt the case you would see alot of 4x4 with warn out ball joints on stock coils. The real strain will come from the spacer. And its been said before, unless you plan on doing alot of off roading, then you ball joints should be fine with a spacer.
If the arms are the same on both a 4x2 and a 4x4 then you shouldnt get any extra strain on the joints with the coils from a 4x4. If that wasnt the case you would see alot of 4x4 with warn out ball joints on stock coils. The real strain will come from the spacer. And its been said before, unless you plan on doing alot of off roading, then you ball joints should be fine with a spacer.
By Tylus:
there is just 1 thing you 4x2 guys really need to keep in mind.
How high do you want to go?
If all you want is leveled out, then just buy a 2.5" or 3" spacer and leave rear alone.
If you want stock 4x4 height you'll need:
1a. 4x4 front shock/strut (coil-over)
1b. a 3" leveling kit
I suggest option 1a, but option 1b works just as well. only get 1 though
2. 4x4 rear block (1-5/8" tall)
If you want 4x4 Leveled Height, you'll need
1. #1a and #2 from above list
2. a 2" or 2.5" spacer
and finally, get an alignment
there is just 1 thing you 4x2 guys really need to keep in mind.
How high do you want to go?
If all you want is leveled out, then just buy a 2.5" or 3" spacer and leave rear alone.
If you want stock 4x4 height you'll need:
1a. 4x4 front shock/strut (coil-over)
1b. a 3" leveling kit
I suggest option 1a, but option 1b works just as well. only get 1 though
2. 4x4 rear block (1-5/8" tall)
If you want 4x4 Leveled Height, you'll need
1. #1a and #2 from above list
2. a 2" or 2.5" spacer
and finally, get an alignment
I can quote the other thread too.
dbhost:
So the front ends are basically the same as far as ball joints, control arms and such, EXCEPT the LCA is a different part number (most likely longer on the 4x4), and if I would bet the spindles have got to be a different part #, for obvious reasons, and again, most likely longer, and I know the shocks are a different part #, again longer... The coils are also most likely longer...
So yeah you can try to shove 4x4 coilover shocks up front, but I would NOT do it with a leveling kit... It probably won't all go together, and if it does, it will likely destroy ball joints fast...
dbhost:
So the front ends are basically the same as far as ball joints, control arms and such, EXCEPT the LCA is a different part number (most likely longer on the 4x4), and if I would bet the spindles have got to be a different part #, for obvious reasons, and again, most likely longer, and I know the shocks are a different part #, again longer... The coils are also most likely longer...
So yeah you can try to shove 4x4 coilover shocks up front, but I would NOT do it with a leveling kit... It probably won't all go together, and if it does, it will likely destroy ball joints fast...
You obviously didn't read enough. The guy you quoted was wrong about the CA's. He was later corrected. The CA's arms are exactly the same. Spindles are the exact same as well. Just look bud.
The same.
The same.

I'll go on record saying I don't see how it would be possible... but I was wrong once in 1987.
With the same exact parts, why would this not work like leveling out a 4x4 truck. As has been proven with the parts sheet for the suspension system, the parts are all the same, exact for the struts.
So...someone tell me...why this cant be done?
So...someone tell me...why this cant be done?
Lol, this thing is getting heated! I don't know who's right or wrong, but i know im not going to try it on my truck anymore, unless i can get some cold hard facts on it.
If someone else is going to try it, please let me know how it works! Because if it works out fine i'd like to do it!
If someone else is going to try it, please let me know how it works! Because if it works out fine i'd like to do it!
OK here's the deal - do what you are talking about to your truck - take PICs and Post them here - If it works you win if it does not work you lose - Time to MAN up and he who is wrong will apologize.
Now....me myself I don't see how it would work either but I am not a mechanic either in reality or Internet. These are just trucks fellas - to each their own.
Let the game begin!!!!!!!!!!
Now....me myself I don't see how it would work either but I am not a mechanic either in reality or Internet. These are just trucks fellas - to each their own.
Let the game begin!!!!!!!!!!
Wow! heated debate.
This guy ordered custom 4 inch AS spacers for his truck and installed them on his 2WD.
https://www.f150online.com/forums/su...-question.html
Search is your friend.
This guy ordered custom 4 inch AS spacers for his truck and installed them on his 2WD.
https://www.f150online.com/forums/su...-question.html
Search is your friend.
from the set up we were talking about, would be 4.5" of lift. 2 from the 4x4 STRUTS not the coils. i never said the coils lifted the truck. and 2.5" from a leveling kit. i cannot believe that guy would could get a 4" spacer on a stock subframe, it is just implausable.
and to comment on your internet mechanic, im not listening to what someone posted, i've actually been under a truck or two and i know what im talking about from experience, not from what someone else on a forum said, unlike yourself. l
like i said shoot me your address, i will gladly ship you out my 4x4 coil/struts and my AS 2.5" spacer for FREE. if you post a video of you putting it on and getting that upper control arm to seat in the spindle.
get your hands into the suspension on your truck and you'll see exactly what im talking about. i was going to put the 2.5" spacer ontop of my 6" lift once i had the whole assembly in the truck and i realized how much trouble i had getting it to bolt together i said screw it, the CV's and BJ angles were going to be horrid, i'd rather save my parts.
and to comment on why i beleve it cant be done like you stated above, they have all the same parts, accept the struts... they obviously have a different knuckle. your 2WD knuckles dont have ports for the vac line do they? or the set up for the same hub assembly for a 4WD truck do they? no they dont, so recorrect your post. they have different parts.
the 4x4 04-08 F-150's and 2 different types of lower control arms aswell, call a dealer and ask for a lower control arm for a 4WD 04-08 F150 he will ask for the vin because the computer will show 2 different types of comtrol arms, i know this because i replaced both of my lowers with moog chasis lower control arms. I called ford for a comparison price, and their systems showed two different lower control arms, so obviously the 2WD's cant have both control arms on them can they? no.
I know my knowledge on this suspension from dealing with it first hand, not reading on the internet, the internet does help but it wont tell you everything. i can assure you this, and if you ever come across dealing with your truck on a suspension level you will understand what im talking about.
remember i will ship them both to you for free. just to see you put them on. and if you need a hand taking apart all those confusing parts that the internet diagram didnt show you, ill be glad to give you a hand =]
and to comment on your internet mechanic, im not listening to what someone posted, i've actually been under a truck or two and i know what im talking about from experience, not from what someone else on a forum said, unlike yourself. l
like i said shoot me your address, i will gladly ship you out my 4x4 coil/struts and my AS 2.5" spacer for FREE. if you post a video of you putting it on and getting that upper control arm to seat in the spindle.
get your hands into the suspension on your truck and you'll see exactly what im talking about. i was going to put the 2.5" spacer ontop of my 6" lift once i had the whole assembly in the truck and i realized how much trouble i had getting it to bolt together i said screw it, the CV's and BJ angles were going to be horrid, i'd rather save my parts.
and to comment on why i beleve it cant be done like you stated above, they have all the same parts, accept the struts... they obviously have a different knuckle. your 2WD knuckles dont have ports for the vac line do they? or the set up for the same hub assembly for a 4WD truck do they? no they dont, so recorrect your post. they have different parts.
the 4x4 04-08 F-150's and 2 different types of lower control arms aswell, call a dealer and ask for a lower control arm for a 4WD 04-08 F150 he will ask for the vin because the computer will show 2 different types of comtrol arms, i know this because i replaced both of my lowers with moog chasis lower control arms. I called ford for a comparison price, and their systems showed two different lower control arms, so obviously the 2WD's cant have both control arms on them can they? no.
I know my knowledge on this suspension from dealing with it first hand, not reading on the internet, the internet does help but it wont tell you everything. i can assure you this, and if you ever come across dealing with your truck on a suspension level you will understand what im talking about.
remember i will ship them both to you for free. just to see you put them on. and if you need a hand taking apart all those confusing parts that the internet diagram didnt show you, ill be glad to give you a hand =]
ok why is this newb gonna argue with this many people. about 6 people have said it dont work. he has not said one person who has actually done this. 4wd and 2wd trucks on the front end are different. theres more than just 1 part thats different like your post said. if your so confident that your right, take up eff 1 fitty on his offer. what do you have to lose? he said it would be FREE.
me and a friend tried to get 2 1/2" of lift out of his front end on his 01 scab. we ended up having to cut the coil twice to get it to fit. (i am in no way saying to do the way my buddy did ever, he just does it the cheapest possible way he can, and its usually not the greatest way) i honestly can't even think how you could get what your even saying to fit but it wont and if it does you will have control arm issues like crazy, my guess would be IF you did get it bolted up your control arm would be hitting something.
me and a friend tried to get 2 1/2" of lift out of his front end on his 01 scab. we ended up having to cut the coil twice to get it to fit. (i am in no way saying to do the way my buddy did ever, he just does it the cheapest possible way he can, and its usually not the greatest way) i honestly can't even think how you could get what your even saying to fit but it wont and if it does you will have control arm issues like crazy, my guess would be IF you did get it bolted up your control arm would be hitting something.
Last edited by 06yz250f; Dec 9, 2008 at 12:25 AM.




