Supercrew or Honda Ridgeline?
Originally Posted by tardman91
Obviously you haven't tried to trade or sell a Ford lately. 

Originally Posted by APT
I think the Ridgeline has two major points over the F-150. Fuel economy and ride quality unloaded.
Ride quality -- I respectfully disagree. Having driven both, I felt that the F-150 Supercrew (new body style) offered a much nicer ride. Again though, this is a subjective thing so, I would certainly honor any other opinions -- that's just mine.
This is why.
Data should be read in the following order:
FORD
Ridgeline RTS
Ridgeline RT
Ridgeline RTL
2006 FORD F-150 REGULAR CAB 4X4
126-in. WB FX4 Styleside
2006 HONDA RIDGELINE
RTS
2006 HONDA RIDGELINE
RT
2006 HONDA RIDGELINE
RTL
INTERIOR
126-in. WB FX4 Styleside RTS RT RTL
SEATING
Front Split Bench Seat
Front 40/20/40 Folding Split Bench Seat With Manually Adjustable Outboard Headrests and Fold-Down Center Armrest (Standard)
Not Available
Not Available
Not Available
ENTERTAINMENT SYSTEMS
Cassette Player
Optional (NO CHARGE)
Not Available
Not Available
Not Available
OTHER INTERIOR ITEMS
Adjustable Foot Pedals
Optional
Not Available
Not Available
Not Available
PERFORMANCE
126-in. WB FX4 Styleside RTS RT RTL
Horsepower @ RPM
300@5000
247@5750
247@5750
247@5750
Torque @ RPM
365@3750
245@4500
245@4500
245@4500
Displacement (cc)
5400
3471
3471
3471
Bore X Stroke (in.)
3.55 X 4.17
3.50 X 3.66
3.50 X 3.66
3.50 X 3.66
Driveline
Four Wheel Drive - Part Time
Four Wheel Drive - Full Time
Four Wheel Drive - Full Time
Four Wheel Drive - Full Time
Turning Diameter (Left)
41.8
42.6
42.6
42.6
Turning Diameter (Right)
41.8
42.6
42.6
42.6
DIMENSIONS, WEIGHTS, CAPACITIES
126-in. WB FX4 Styleside RTS RT RTL
Wheelbase (in.)
125.8
122.0
122.0
122.0
Track Width Rear (in.)
67.0
66.9
66.9
66.9
Fuel Capacity (gal.)
26.0
22.0
22.0
22.0
Front Head Room (in.)
40.9
40.7
40.7
40.7
Front Leg Room (in.)
41.3
40.8
40.8
40.8
Front Shoulder Room (in.)
66.5
63.2
63.2
63.2
Front Hip Room (in.)
65.4
57.6
57.6
57.6
Length (in.)
211.2
206.8
206.8
206.8
Width (in.)
78.9
77.8
77.8
77.8
TOWING
Standard Tow Capacity (lbs.)
7600
5000
5000
5000
Maximum Tow Capacity (lbs.)
7600
5000
5000
5000
Standard Payload (lbs.)
1680
1558
1549
1554
Maximum Payload (lbs.)
1680
1558
1549
1554
Standard GVWR (lbs.)
6850
6050
6050
6050
Maximum GVWR (lbs.)
6850
6050
6050
6050
Bedlength (in.)
78.8
60.0
60.0
60.0
Bedwidth Wheel (in.)
50.0
49.5
49.5
49.5
Bed Height (in.)
22.3
20.7
20.7
20.7
Signaling Exterior Mirrors
Optional
Not Available
Not Available
Not Available
Rear Window Defogger
Optional
Not Available
Not Available
Not Available
Electronic Parking Aid
Optional
Not Available
Not Available
Not Available
Access Panel
Standard
NOt Available
Not Available
Not Available
Underbody Tire Carrier
Standard
Not Available
Not Available
Not Available
Driver's Door Keyless Entry Keypad
Standard
Not Available
Not Available
Not Available
.
FORD
Ridgeline RTS
Ridgeline RT
Ridgeline RTL
2006 FORD F-150 REGULAR CAB 4X4
126-in. WB FX4 Styleside
2006 HONDA RIDGELINE
RTS
2006 HONDA RIDGELINE
RT
2006 HONDA RIDGELINE
RTL
INTERIOR
126-in. WB FX4 Styleside RTS RT RTL
SEATING
Front Split Bench Seat
Front 40/20/40 Folding Split Bench Seat With Manually Adjustable Outboard Headrests and Fold-Down Center Armrest (Standard)
Not Available
Not Available
Not Available
ENTERTAINMENT SYSTEMS
Cassette Player
Optional (NO CHARGE)
Not Available
Not Available
Not Available
OTHER INTERIOR ITEMS
Adjustable Foot Pedals
Optional
Not Available
Not Available
Not Available
PERFORMANCE
126-in. WB FX4 Styleside RTS RT RTL
Horsepower @ RPM
300@5000
247@5750
247@5750
247@5750
Torque @ RPM
365@3750
245@4500
245@4500
245@4500
Displacement (cc)
5400
3471
3471
3471
Bore X Stroke (in.)
3.55 X 4.17
3.50 X 3.66
3.50 X 3.66
3.50 X 3.66
Driveline
Four Wheel Drive - Part Time
Four Wheel Drive - Full Time
Four Wheel Drive - Full Time
Four Wheel Drive - Full Time
Turning Diameter (Left)
41.8
42.6
42.6
42.6
Turning Diameter (Right)
41.8
42.6
42.6
42.6
DIMENSIONS, WEIGHTS, CAPACITIES
126-in. WB FX4 Styleside RTS RT RTL
Wheelbase (in.)
125.8
122.0
122.0
122.0
Track Width Rear (in.)
67.0
66.9
66.9
66.9
Fuel Capacity (gal.)
26.0
22.0
22.0
22.0
Front Head Room (in.)
40.9
40.7
40.7
40.7
Front Leg Room (in.)
41.3
40.8
40.8
40.8
Front Shoulder Room (in.)
66.5
63.2
63.2
63.2
Front Hip Room (in.)
65.4
57.6
57.6
57.6
Length (in.)
211.2
206.8
206.8
206.8
Width (in.)
78.9
77.8
77.8
77.8
TOWING
Standard Tow Capacity (lbs.)
7600
5000
5000
5000
Maximum Tow Capacity (lbs.)
7600
5000
5000
5000
Standard Payload (lbs.)
1680
1558
1549
1554
Maximum Payload (lbs.)
1680
1558
1549
1554
Standard GVWR (lbs.)
6850
6050
6050
6050
Maximum GVWR (lbs.)
6850
6050
6050
6050
Bedlength (in.)
78.8
60.0
60.0
60.0
Bedwidth Wheel (in.)
50.0
49.5
49.5
49.5
Bed Height (in.)
22.3
20.7
20.7
20.7
Signaling Exterior Mirrors
Optional
Not Available
Not Available
Not Available
Rear Window Defogger
Optional
Not Available
Not Available
Not Available
Electronic Parking Aid
Optional
Not Available
Not Available
Not Available
Access Panel
Standard
NOt Available
Not Available
Not Available
Underbody Tire Carrier
Standard
Not Available
Not Available
Not Available
Driver's Door Keyless Entry Keypad
Standard
Not Available
Not Available
Not Available
.
Last edited by nu-supercrew; Mar 28, 2006 at 01:11 PM.
This link compares the 2 safety ratings. The Ford has not been tested for side impact (a plus for the Honda), both have same rollover rating. To fords credit, it is almost 1,000 lbs heavier. The fine print reads not to compare if they are'nt within 250 lbs. I think thats a huge advantage to safety on the Ford. Heavier doesn't always mean safer, but in head on collisions it is usually an advantage.
http://www.safercar.gov/Index2.cfm
Oops, link didnt save the comparison, but it gets to the site to do it.
http://www.safercar.gov/Index2.cfm
Oops, link didnt save the comparison, but it gets to the site to do it.
I had a couple critiques of the Supercrew from my test drive but haven't driven the Ridgeline (yet) to compare.
Overall, I really liked how responsive the F150 was off the line, how it handled, and how great the brakes seemed to work. However, I noticed that the tranny seemed very slow to shift when "trying" to accelerate, and that it lacked power going up hills. In general, this would not likely be a fatal flaw for me since my roadrace legend days are over.
My 1st concern with the F150 is reliability, and 2nd is fuel economy. I "think" the 4.6 has a good track record and that the 2wd XLT truck has less stuff to break (my 1st ford was a 99 XL work series... very reliable). Real-world gas mileage from reviews I've read is poor... 12-15 average.
The Ridgeline doesn't "seem" to have reliability woes thus far besides some windshield seal woes. From the reviews I've read, users are actually seeing 15+ mpg real-world.
Overall, I really liked how responsive the F150 was off the line, how it handled, and how great the brakes seemed to work. However, I noticed that the tranny seemed very slow to shift when "trying" to accelerate, and that it lacked power going up hills. In general, this would not likely be a fatal flaw for me since my roadrace legend days are over.
My 1st concern with the F150 is reliability, and 2nd is fuel economy. I "think" the 4.6 has a good track record and that the 2wd XLT truck has less stuff to break (my 1st ford was a 99 XL work series... very reliable). Real-world gas mileage from reviews I've read is poor... 12-15 average.
The Ridgeline doesn't "seem" to have reliability woes thus far besides some windshield seal woes. From the reviews I've read, users are actually seeing 15+ mpg real-world.
Originally Posted by rmills
This link compares the 2 safety ratings. The Ford has not been tested for side impact (a plus for the Honda), both have same rollover rating. To fords credit, it is almost 1,000 lbs heavier. The fine print reads not to compare if they are'nt within 250 lbs. I think thats a huge advantage to safety on the Ford. Heavier doesn't always mean safer, but in head on collisions it is usually an advantage.
http://www.safercar.gov/Index2.cfm
Oops, link didnt save the comparison, but it gets to the site to do it.
http://www.safercar.gov/Index2.cfm
Oops, link didnt save the comparison, but it gets to the site to do it.
Originally Posted by Jondotcom
My 1st concern with the F150 is reliability, and 2nd is fuel economy.
Originally Posted by bluejay432000
If you are asking yourself that question, you don't really need a truck, just get the Ridgeline.
. I went and test-drove one today at lunch. It's actually quite similar in size, price, and utility to the F150 supercrew w/5.5' bed I first drove. Overall impressions of Ridgeline vs F150 SC 5.5' in no specific order:
Styling- not bad when you see it in person. That's a plus when you like to be different.
Utility- on par with f150 (for what I plan to haul) , and better if you add the roof rack.
Safety- Comes with side air curtains and stability control, ABS and brake assist.... all voodoo stuff that should keep women on the road
Some blind spots... seems to be somewhat worse than F150
Ride- Equally good like F150
Road Noise- F150 is noticeably quieter
Power- More responsive, quicker shifting, and revs more freely than ford (vtec I guess).
Overall conclusions: IMO, it's basically a tie. I can't think of any real tie-breakers other than brand loyalty or ignorant macho "it's not a truck unless it's an unreliable gas hog" stuff
. If Honda or Ford comes back with that 0% financing that would probably seal the deal for one or the other. I'm leaning toward the Honda based on reputation, but it all comes down to $$ in the end.
Originally Posted by nu-supercrew
Looks like a space-age El Camino...I just don't like the body style.
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Jim
Jim
If it's that close
Man, if it's that close between the two, for you, I'd suggest some heavy research into the local dealarships service departments. Talk with people who have used them.
Personally, I'd prefer a service department who are friendly, knowledgable, and well staffed. Who are known for going the "extra mile" for the customer.
Service departments with good customer relations go a long way in the decision making process, for me.
Best of luck.
Personally, I'd prefer a service department who are friendly, knowledgable, and well staffed. Who are known for going the "extra mile" for the customer.
Service departments with good customer relations go a long way in the decision making process, for me.
Best of luck.
Originally Posted by nu-supercrew
Looks like a space-age El Camino...I just don't like the body style.
I wish Ford would do that kind of thing.
Originally Posted by Jondotcom
Yes, I am serious
. I've been test driving trucks and had basically settled on the F150 SuperCrew since there's basically nothing that holds up to it for what I'm planning to use it for.... but then the Honda Ridgeline caught my eye.
I had a 99 F150 that was a fantastic truck (used it for work for 2 yrs, but changed professions). It seems that quality is either a hit or miss with the F150... many are happy and have no issues, some have to change out parts before 100k miles and don't care, and some get a lemon. I have to admit that I'm at least somewhat concerned about quality, even though I've personally had bad experiences with Toyota too! The only quam I'm hearing from Ridgeline owners is faulty windshield seals.
I need a truck for:
1)daily driving
2)Haul family (2 small kids)
3)minor home improvement projects (needs to hold 4x8s)
4)Occasional light boat towing (~2500 lbs)
5)Trips to tahoe (snow)
I know this is a ford forum, but is there any reason why I shouldn't consider the Honda (besides it being ugly)? I was planning on the 2wd F150 XLT, so I don't plan to off-road.
. I've been test driving trucks and had basically settled on the F150 SuperCrew since there's basically nothing that holds up to it for what I'm planning to use it for.... but then the Honda Ridgeline caught my eye. I had a 99 F150 that was a fantastic truck (used it for work for 2 yrs, but changed professions). It seems that quality is either a hit or miss with the F150... many are happy and have no issues, some have to change out parts before 100k miles and don't care, and some get a lemon. I have to admit that I'm at least somewhat concerned about quality, even though I've personally had bad experiences with Toyota too! The only quam I'm hearing from Ridgeline owners is faulty windshield seals.
I need a truck for:
1)daily driving
2)Haul family (2 small kids)
3)minor home improvement projects (needs to hold 4x8s)
4)Occasional light boat towing (~2500 lbs)
5)Trips to tahoe (snow)
I know this is a ford forum, but is there any reason why I shouldn't consider the Honda (besides it being ugly)? I was planning on the 2wd F150 XLT, so I don't plan to off-road.



