electric fans, worth the price?
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A larger /aux trans cooler - with thermostatically-controlled active cooling is always a good idea, regardless of engine cooling fan type.
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7000 lbs ain't crap for a 5.4 supercrew, I took my 04 work truck 2wd and pulled another 04 supercrew 4x4 home with trailer that's 8000 lbs the truck had no issues stopping or starting, I mean my truck I pulled with does not even have tow package as my other truck does
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Figure the OP's 7,000lb trailer @ 15% tongue weight is already 1,000 lbs into the total rated payload - which in probably only around 1,500 lbs or so total for a truck of that vintage. Add driver, passengers, dawg, beer, gas, cargo in the bed and a trailer that is likely more than alleged 7,000lbs in reality ... it's gonna be over legal limits. Knowing the axle ratio will help, as will knowing wheel/tire size.
Happens all the time - just read through the Towing forum. Does not make it safe or right - and certainly not legal - despite your experience. Folks take stupid risks all the time. A One-shot utility towing deal over limits is one thing - regular max towing for camping trips with onboard precious cargo is quite another.
In fact, I'd wager you were close/over limit too. I reckon you never did the math - there is a section in the manual to help you. But you won't because you can't handle the truth.
Just because it can be done, does not mean you should. You disappoint me, RP (not that I give a chit, lol).
Back OT - OP... when at max rated towing, yer truck is working it's hardest - abundant, reliable cooling is absolutely crucial. Ensuring that with an efan system takes a Very good system and remarkable attention to Every detail. NO scrimping or cost-cutting. If you still wish to do so, at least consider the OEM 2010+ F150 dual efans and redundant controllers (or manual overrides and a good single controller).
good luck
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The truck has 3.55 gears and 285 70 17's tires with a level kit on front. If it makes any difference it will have a weight distribution kit on camper.
Hitch Weight 740 lbs
Ship Weight 5750lbs
GVWR 7740lbs
Cargo Capacity 1952lbs
Dimensions off camper website
The truck has 3.55 gears and 285 70 17's tires with a level kit on front. If it makes any difference it will have a weight distribution kit on camper.
Hitch Weight 740 lbs
Ship Weight 5750lbs
GVWR 7740lbs
Cargo Capacity 1952lbs
Dimensions off camper website
I noticed some performance improvement by going to MadEnterprise EFan setup. Its basically a police interceptor fan or probably mark 8. All the improvement was probably 60mph+. I felt like the truck pulled harder longer. I did it for 2 reasons, one was for the little extra hp, the other was for days where I sit in traffic in Arizona 115+ degree summer heat. AC works better.
I thought it was worth it, and have had zero issues with the setup (other then I got the first controller wet with my open Saleen hood)
I thought it was worth it, and have had zero issues with the setup (other then I got the first controller wet with my open Saleen hood)
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I have been running the Troyer kit for years now. Yes it freed up some Hp. I have replaced 1 fan and both controllers. The were not intended for submarine use. I Have a switch to turn them on bypassing the controllers and each have a switch to turn them off for water crossing. Water on a moving fan will suck the blades into the rad faster than you can say splash. My fans are mounted to the aluminum ridges on the rad. No push through rods. Off roading with efans and copper push through rods cost me a rad. Plastic rods did not hold up.
Spend the money and get the mod. Then save up and Spend the money and get the mod. Then save up...............
Spend the money and get the mod. Then save up and Spend the money and get the mod. Then save up...............
which is better between troyer and the one from mad enterprise?
http://www.madenterprise.com/Madfan.htm
I'm still undecided as to which kit or just buy the parts previously suggested to get
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so is troyer efan kit bad?
which is better between troyer and the one from mad enterprise?
http://www.madenterprise.com/Madfan.htm
I'm still undecided as to which kit or just buy the parts previously suggested to get
which is better between troyer and the one from mad enterprise?
http://www.madenterprise.com/Madfan.htm
I'm still undecided as to which kit or just buy the parts previously suggested to get
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If, after ALL of that discussion (not to mention that I typed the danged Skin off my fingers, lol), you are still even considering those two setups, you are indeed lost in space
You DO NOT WANT a relay controller!
And MAD is no longer manufacturing those systems, so what are you going to do for support?
Unbelievable ... I reckon you dint read through any/much of this thread at all - yer latest reply confirms it.
It. Was. Spelled. Out. For. You. In. Plain. English.
Quit wastng folks' time, buckwheat .
MGD out.
You DO NOT WANT a relay controller!
And MAD is no longer manufacturing those systems, so what are you going to do for support?
Unbelievable ... I reckon you dint read through any/much of this thread at all - yer latest reply confirms it.
It. Was. Spelled. Out. For. You. In. Plain. English.
Quit wastng folks' time, buckwheat .
MGD out.
Since when did red necks drive Nissans?
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Hi.
Yer disappointed and shocked that East Texas rednecks drive Nissans?
Personally, I don't think they do - that's just their rifle rest, lol.
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PS - you can 'unquote' me ..... or not
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I know what am talking about.
I also live in the Canadian version of South Park'
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Ah good point but an e-Fan ain't RPM dependant. So it can pull air at idle which will defo help in the summer. Also the newer body's use an e-Clutch on the fan as well.
Mix that with an e-Water pump and you have an excellent cool down set up.
What's the common HP gain with e-Fan & e-Pump?
Mix that with an e-Water pump and you have an excellent cool down set up.
What's the common HP gain with e-Fan & e-Pump?
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about to pull the trigger on this..
so as for the shopping list, could you guys confirm these are good prices and part numbers?
I'm looking for these parts to fit my 2006 5.4
$185 OBO!?
efan via ebay, not sure about the part number, listing RF-252 and 269
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RADIATOR-FAN-EXPEDITION-1264250-10-11-12-13-NEW-OEM-SURPLUS-DUAL-FAN-ASSY-/351002933060?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item51b967b744&vxp=mtr
$274 controller
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Painless-Performance-Products-30140-F5-Dual-Fan-Controller-/310753326719?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item485a57767f&vxp=mtr
do I still need this $50 adapter or anything else?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Flex-a-lite-Inline-Radiator-Hose-Temperature-Sensor-Adapter-32084-/151236461622?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2336654436&vxp=mtr
total without adapter: $459
so as for the shopping list, could you guys confirm these are good prices and part numbers?
I'm looking for these parts to fit my 2006 5.4
$185 OBO!?
efan via ebay, not sure about the part number, listing RF-252 and 269http://www.ebay.com/itm/RADIATOR-FAN-EXPEDITION-1264250-10-11-12-13-NEW-OEM-SURPLUS-DUAL-FAN-ASSY-/351002933060?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item51b967b744&vxp=mtr
$274 controller
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Painless-Performance-Products-30140-F5-Dual-Fan-Controller-/310753326719?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item485a57767f&vxp=mtr
do I still need this $50 adapter or anything else?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Flex-a-lite-Inline-Radiator-Hose-Temperature-Sensor-Adapter-32084-/151236461622?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2336654436&vxp=mtr
total without adapter: $459
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so is troyer efan kit bad?
which is better between troyer and the one from mad enterprise?
http://www.madenterprise.com/Madfan.htm
I'm still undecided as to which kit or just buy the parts previously suggested to get
which is better between troyer and the one from mad enterprise?
http://www.madenterprise.com/Madfan.htm
I'm still undecided as to which kit or just buy the parts previously suggested to get
not that you're gonna listen anyway
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It is difficult for someone who has only used the one product to say if his choice was better than the other one. If you are the least bit mechanically inclined build your own. Some members have gone that route. If it were me and there was an OEM set up available I would be all over that.