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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 12:31 PM
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Roush vs Whipple

What is a better kit to get. The Roush intercooled or the Whipple, and is there a difference in the Ford Racing and the Whipple? I know they are both made by Whipple, online they look a little different.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 12:37 PM
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Whipple will end up being the better setup in the long run. There is a reason the lightning guys take off the 1.8 roots and go to a 2.3 twin screw. Catch is the Whipple kits don't come with injectors. So expect to buy some 39 or 60lb injectors, fuel pump+boosta pump or a dual pump setup.

Check out Saleen, great deals on those and they use the 2.3L Whipple just in a different configuration.

For example of hp difference, dyno tuned, full exhaust(longtubes) Roush kits do 410-420rwhp. Whipple/Saleen kits can see 450+. Whipple with the Roush/lightning belt drive setup and lightning snout 550-600rwhp with 18-20lbs. Saleen looks like it's limited to 14-15lbs with a 2.87 upper and a custom built lower.
 

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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 01:21 PM
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I plan to convert mine over to a Lightning belt system. easier to control the level of boost.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by jjfx407
What is a better kit to get. The Roush intercooled or the Whipple, and is there a difference in the Ford Racing and the Whipple? I know they are both made by Whipple, online they look a little different.
Well the Roush kit is the most complete kit and you get a warranty, the Whipple has no warranty and you have to buy other upgrades to make the big power, now the numbers that were posted are for the Roush at 8lbs and the Whipple at 10-12lbs

, dyno tuned, full exhaust(longtubes) Roush kits do 410-420rwhp. Whipple/Saleen kits can see 450+.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 03:05 PM
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Warrenty? Who cares

Excuses, excuse on 8lbs.. It's not our fault you roush guys are panzy's and only run 8lbs. It's not like us Whipple/Saleen guys are whining yall have longtubes and we don't.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 03:23 PM
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LOL, you guys are funny.

I plan on a Whipple myself. Start with the best blower, then take the care to put together the best "kit" to suit your needs. Roush thinks my needs are one thing, I think they are another. Thus, I will buy the Whipple and assemble the other parts needed for 450rwhp.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 06:42 PM
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oh boy
 
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 08:13 PM
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eventually I would like to swap to a whipple 2.3L with the lightning snout but that all depends on when I find a new job, besides I have a tranny to upgrade and a driveshaft to upgrade first......
 
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 08:17 PM
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LOL you super chargers boys are feisty. I though kenne bells were the new hotness? STS FTW!!
 
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 09:57 PM
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How much power difference is the lightning snout compare to the original snout and is the lightning snout ordered from whipple after the supercharger is purchased?
 
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 10:00 PM
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yes last time i was at the dyno shop i was talking about the kenne bell it would swap out, the guy near me knows the fella who make jlp intakes and i said i need to get some forged internals in there before i get excited i do think it could happen
 
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 10:48 PM
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$1800 for a new rotating assembly from MODMAX.com good to about 850 crank hp
 
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by jjfx407
How much power difference is the lightning snout compare to the original snout and is the lightning snout ordered from whipple after the supercharger is purchased?
The lightning snout allows me to use the Roush belt setup to adjust boost more easily
 
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 03:52 PM
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Well the Roush kit is the most complete kit and you get a warranty, the Whipple has no warranty and you have to buy other upgrades to make the big power, now the numbers that were posted are for the Roush at 8lbs and the Whipple at 10-12lbs

, dyno tuned, full exhaust(longtubes) Roush kits do 410-420rwhp. Whipple/Saleen kits can see 450+.
Actually I never seen a Roush make 400RWHP on 8PSI. All the 400+RWHP trucks have the Troyer ported blower and actually have 9.5PSI or so with the pulley upgrade that he provides and the aftermarket tune..

After I get everything set and I feel I have a fairly good tune on my truck I'll take it to the dyno on 8PSI and see what it put outs to the ground.

Whipple is 5 grand and Troyer upgrade Roush is 6200. So basically add injectors and a tune your at roughly the same for both.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 04:50 PM
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Makes the saleen/jdm setup for around 5k seem even more better.

Whipple kits now are $3700 btw.
 
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