Do I really sound like that when I say It?

 

I agree

 

I am seriously going to talk to two different shops about a full air ride setup to lay frame. I'm tired of hitting the bumpstops. I'm tired of not having full control over my ride height. I'm tired of not tucking wheel up in the fender well when I'm parked. lol

 

Just don't waste your money on the ART stuff you wont be happy with it

I vaguely remember the 04-08 trucks are the same way with the leafs, sure do wish I had an extra leaf

Might eventually go back to my old setup but a 3" drop shackle flip and these

 

04+ trucks can't fit a 3" drop shackle, much less no one makes one as a 3"

 

Belltech does
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Shackle-2-3-...item415855d1a2

Spring tech does
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2or3-drop-Lo...item51887c5c66

I didn't believe it either untill I saw the parts and someone on here said they have put on the spring tech one. I know I had to bend over my pintch weld to fit a 2" in there. I'd imagine you would have to cut it out for it to fit

 

Hmm I did just have the thought that possibly they mean 3" if you remove the stock block in a 4wd and add their shim....BUT the guy on here from the suspension source says belltech has a 3" shackle for 04+

 

Milt....I appreciate all this leg work your doing. Since my last post I have went to my local Ford dealership with a tape measure and measured 3 different models...Regular Cab XL, 4 door XLT and a 4 door Lariat. The front ends all ranged from the XL with 22 1/2 in the front to the Lariat that was 21 1/2 in the front. The reason of the difference could be my eyes. BUT what I did find interesting is that ALL trucks were 24 in the rear. Knowing that Ive never seen a truck/car on a car lot that has more than 1/8 of a tank of gas in it could be the difference. I measured mine AGAIN on a different parking lot and coming up with 19 in the front and 17 1/2 in the rear (with half a tank of gas).

SO......after doing the math it would seem to me that my 19 front should be correct (give or take a half inch for eye error) and espcialy looking at other trucks the front end looks fine. BUT with my rear being 17 1/2 and a stock truck being 24 that is a difference of 6 1/2..a full 1 1/2 TOO low. I did look and I have a 3 leaf setup in the back.
I have called Bellteck with my reart shock part number AND the overall lenth of the shock and they again tell me that it is the correct rear shock. But I swear I have never had to lift the rear end (tires off the ground) to install a shock.

With all this info that Milt has told me I think I will get back on the phone with beltech and see if they can help me out with this.
I might have to go with a different set of rear shocks OR some helper bags in the back.
This whole experience Ive had with Beltech is uncalled for

 

Time to add more information to the pile. Just got done tearing apart my struts and comparing them to the OE. It took three 16mm spacers for it to match OE. So the revised instructions are right, sorta...

I was sitting at 19.25" in the front (1x16mm and 1x8mm spacer in the struts), 22" in the rear (2" drop shackle). I decided to add 1" to the front, so I threw in another 16mm spacer (totalling 2x16mm and 1x8mm). After that my front jumped way the **** up to 21". Rear still at 22". This looked really stupid. So I tore it all down again and took out the 8mm spacer. Now I'm at an even 20" in the front and 22" in the rear.

About the rear leafs, I have a 3-pack. My truck does have the factory towing package. So going back to the beginning, my *** was sagging with the flip and no spacers. It was slight, but it was definitely sagging.

If some company out there would get off their lazy *** and make REASONABLY priced lowering leafs for the 2009+, I'd be one of the first in line. But I guess as long as Ground Force is the only company making it, they can charge whatever they want. Some idiot will pay it. Just not me.

 

That's interesting that we both got the same 21 1/2" stock front but we got a 1/2" variance in the stock rear. Did you notice what leaf packs they had or if they were 4wd? Both of the ones I measured were 2wd but one had the 3pack leaf and the other a 4pack leaf but both measured 23 1/2".

If you are at 19" in the front then you are actually a 1/2" in to high right? Going that extra 1/2" would make the rear look less "saggy" but I also agree that we are both sitting lower than a 5" drop in the rear.

I don't mind digging into this kinda stuff. I like to know for my own benefit as well as being able to help you and people in the future.

 

the first one lists for a 4wd for sure

There just isnt enough room under the bed to put a 2" longer shackle then the 2" drop shackle is

 

I agree

 

Didnt look at the leaf packs on the trucks since I didnt see you post about the difference until I got back home. But they were all 2wd. And yes with the measurements that I had gotten I might be 1/2 high on my front. But that just could be user error. If you look back at the pics that you posted of all our trucks (with stock rims) they look very similiar in the front. But Im almost 2 inches low in the rear. Havent called Beltech yet but will be on the phone with them in the next couple hours. If what your saying is true about the leaf spring packs then they should be able to send me something to fix my sagging rear. If not they need to re-thinik there drop kits...

 

I agree, I'm just going by what people have said to me

 

UPDATE===========
Got off the phone with Beltech. Very good customer service. I explained that the rear end is about 2" low and they said that they were aware of the problem with there kits and are in R/D stage with a fix. Even if someone was wanting to buy the kit they would not sell it to them.
The man on the phone gave me the guys email that is over fixing the problem and gave him my contact info so hopefuly I will hear something back from them soon.