Hey Everyone. I think I'm finally at a point where I would like to start upgrading my stereo. I have a 2010 FX4 SuperCrew with the 6-disc changer with Sync, but no nav, no sony. Where I want to start is the sub. I do plan to swap out the door speakers and want to amp them, but depending on the sub selection, will determine which amp. I plan to keep the headunit stock just because ultimately I would like the nav, but no chance I'm paying for OEM and I don't want to go aftermarket and lose my "matrix" bezel.

So subs. I really want to install this under the rear passenger seat (the single seat). I've really gotten used to having that floor space on the other side when I flip up the seats. The passenger side is always down because of my daughters car seat.

When browsing Crutchfield, I came across these:

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_206SF15....html?tp=49859

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_206PF15....html?tp=49859

Are those any good at all? Any thoughts? Does the second link imply that I would then be set with amplifiers and just need speakers for the doors?

If those aren't all that great or just not worth the money, what would you suggest for that application? I do plan to install myself, but I've never built or designed a box and not sure I'm up to it.

While I'm at it, any thoughts on amp and speakers? In the past, I've had Polk Audio component sets (MOMO and then MM6501). So something comparable to those in quality and relative price.

Thanks for any help!

 

i would build a box and get a shallow mount 10 and put under there it would be less then half that box you linked to. i dont know if the 2010 rear seats are different but if they are the same as the 04 to 08 i can see if i can draw a box up for you. i designed one for my stepdads super duty f250 for behind the seats and for the box, amp, sub and wiring it was gonna be around 200 to 250 bucks.

 

Good lord I would never pay anywhere close to that for those. You could buy a better sub, amp, door speakers, and a 4 channel amp and still be around or possibly even below what that first setup cost. And I don't recommend crutchfield, highly overpriced.

 

this man speaks the truth. for the second link i could almost build my wall. minus the amps since i need like 2 or 3 bc5000 and they are 800 each.

 

Hahaha. Thanks for the replies y'all. Yeah I figured those were way overpriced. Especially since they were prefabbed and custom setup for that application. I just haven't seen a box to buy for under that seat and that's definitely where I want to put it. So if someone wants to draw up a plan (monoxide) or even build it and I'll pay you, that would be great. Would really appreciate that. And probably a 10" sub is all I'd want over there right? Any yall would recommend? And would you recommend going with a 5-channel amp to power the sub, rear doors and probably front components? I also do know crutchfield is a little high, just always have had good experiences. Who do you shop through? Thanks for the help! And for reference, I'm more interested in sound quality than setting off alarms or anything like that. Thanks!

 

Any local shops could build you a box for around 50-75ish if your not up to it. And if your trying to save a little money I'd go with a mono amp for the sub and then a 4-channel for the doors, 5-channels are nice because it's all in one but it'll cost you a bit more for the same thing. For a good budget 10" sub the the rockford fosgate p3s shallow isn't bad at all, good sound quality, great price, and doesn't need a huge box either.

 

i can draw you up a box but only thing is i dont know if the rear seat is the same as my 04. can any one confirm they are the same?

 

i have heard great things of the p3s im not a fan of shallow mounts but some times you have to do what you have to do. also a mono amp will be cheaper for the sub and a 4 channel for the doors. just run a run of 2 gauge or 0 gauge back into the cab into a distribution block and then 4 gauge to each amp. you can do the same with your ground except put the ground as short as you can.

 

Thanks y'all. Really appreciate the continued input. I'll stop by a shop and see what they would charge. And Monoxide, I don't want to put you out unless you're sure you don't mind doing something like that. I don't know if the seats are the same though. I had an 02 before this one. As for the Rockford Fosgate Sub, is that one you would recommend regardless of budget? I mean, I'm not in the business of being ridiculous but I also am not opposed to spending a little more for good quality either if theres something else you'd recommend.

And I did the full install on my 02, so that was definitely the plan with cable run to distribution blocks. Is there room behind the seats in my body style for the install of 2 amps?

 

It depends on the mounting depth for what I'd recommend. But if you need a shallow the best you can buy would be the stereo integrity bm (but the new version isn't out yet) followed by the alpine type r shallow (so good they went back and had to redo the normal type r's because it outperformed them) but they'll run you around 350.

But also the new sundown sd series has good output, at not too bad of a depth (5.25" iirc), the skar vvx series has awesome sq and output, a lot of eclipse subs are very sound quality oriented, and all the brands are a little cheaper sub wise, but they'll need a decent amp to sound right. No point in getting a great sound quality capable sound and pairing it with a cheap amp that can't produce a clean signal anywhere near it's rated power.

 

Thanks! Great info. Just curious, where do you shop? And if I gave you the height of the space under the seat, would that give you enough info as far as what subs would work? And since I have the standard sound system (with sync), I have the full floor mat in the back. I'd like to not cut it up to make it work, but of course can if necessary. I'll go measure real quick. Thanks, oh and for clarity. When a sub like the Type R says it handles power between 50-600 RMS and 1200 max, the RMS number is the important one right? And I'd want an amp that can provide that amount of clean power? Thanks!

 

Ok, went and measured real quick. At the rear most spot of the space where the floor is still flat, its 5" without the floor mat, maybe a quarter inch less with it. In the middle its 6" (same difference without the mat), and at the front most edge of the seat, its 8" (same difference without the mat). Thanks!

 

yea you want to go by the rms. you can go a little over but i wouldnt go over much.

 

^ Thanks. I was looking at the Alpine PDX-V9, which is a 5 channel amp. It says it is rated at 100W x 4 channels, plus 500W RMS x 1 channel at 2 or 4 ohms. Would that be sufficient for that Type R sub and most component and 2 way speakers? Also, do I want a 2 ohm or 4 ohm sub?

 

If it can do 500 at both 2 and 4ohms it shouldn't make a difference what you go with as long as it can be wired to one of those ohm loads.

And you'll definitely wanna go shallow mount and with 500rms build it out of 3/4" mdf. Anything thinner and you risk it pulling itself apart.