no i can not i have not found some one with a 2010 that will let me measure the back seat. they look at me strange when i ask them. lol

 

haha, what measurements are you looking for? Height from floor to underside of seat? Or does it need to be more specific? At the rear most spot of the space where the floor is still flat, its 5" without the floor mat, maybe a quarter inch less with it. In the middle its 6" (same difference with the mat), and at the front most edge of the seat, its 8" (same difference with the mat). Thanks!

 

i need from floor to bottom of seat the width of the seat between the supports, and the depth

 

Hey guys. Been a while since I've updated. Finally had a chance to stop by the one shop to have them look at building a box for my sub under the 40 part of my rear seat. The owner on the fly said around $110. Then the sales guy brought a tech out and he went and looked at the location and said he could do it for $200. Not sure what thats about. I'm going to go to their other location, which I like better and see what they say.

Anyway, I told them about my Type R shallow mount and they recommended the JL 10W1 instead. I think he thought I was referring to just a Type R and not the shallow mount because he indicated I didn't have a lot of room. What are your thoughts comparing those two subs? Any others I should be looking at? Like Image Dynamcs, Memphis? Thanks for your continued help guys. Also, I have experience with Polk, but what are your thoughts about them compared to Focal?

 

The type r shallow would blow the 10w1 away. The image dynamics idq is another good choice if you have the mounting depth. For focal, they're great subs but probably not the sound your used too. They have a more transparent sound so they'll blend in better, you'll get great sq but it might not be as loud as you'd think. If I was you I'd tried to find someone local to you area that runs a focal so you can hear it first.

 

Thank you sir! Yeah, I'm a little leery. The shop I went to today (same name as yesterday's but different location) seems to really be pushing JL. I know they make good stuff, but they seem to be really pushing them. Makes me suspicious. I'm going to try to find some other places in town. He did tell me $175 for the box though, so that was a better price than yesterday.

And I'm also sorry for blending two questions without much clarity. With reference to the Focal and Polk question, I was actually referring to my components up front. I thought I had my list and now I think I may scratch it all and start over. I have been reading reviews and the one thing I do remember was my tweeters were a bit harsher than I liked with the Polks. So I want to rectify that with this purchase.

And as far as amps, the guys were pushing the JL 700/5 over the Alpine PDX-V9. And maybe I should have led with this, but here is my listening tastes and preference:

I like full sounding music. I don't want to rattle teeth or set off alarms, I'm all about sound quality with proper bass. I listen to everything from Dave Matthews, Garth Brooks, Michael Buble, Dub FX, Eminem, classic rock, everything. I love detail. I want to hear instruments and pure sound. I don't like the "S" to sound like a snake. I don't want the bass to overpower the system to where I just hear vibrations. I want precise response with a good punch when I do listen to bass heavy songs. Does that help at all? Thanks again!

 

Yea most shops in my area will try to push jl over anything too, better price tag for them to sell at, and then they'll say something like "oh, this jl sub won't be nearly as good without a jl amp also, so you'll need to buy that too."

 

Yeah, so I'll do more research and try a few different places. How about the components? Focals legit or overhyped? Hertz? Listened to them today in that shop and they sounded pretty clean to me. Thanks for your help.

 

Both of those companies make great speakers so the hype behind them is definitely well based. Look over on the diyma website, it's a car audio website but more geared towards sq than most so you'll be able to find a lot of helpful info on there for sure.

 

Ok, my Christmas list has to come to an end so I can actually give it to someone. So I think I've made my decisions:

Front Doors - Polk MM6501 (125W RMS)
Rear Doors - Polk MM571 (90W RMS)
Sub - Polk MM1040 (100-350W RMS) - Seems to have nothing but positive reviews

So here are my questions:

1. That sub measures a mounting depth of 4 9/16". The smallest space under my rear seat is 5" and grows to roughly 8". The ideal enclosure is 0.66 ft^3. Should I be able to achieve that under just the 40 side of my rear seat in my super crew?

2. Also regarding that sub, should I get the dual voice coil or just the regular one? (whats the difference and why would you choose one over the other?)

3. Based on the specs provided above for those speakers and sub, how would you amp them? Tell me the amp or multiple amps you would use. So I guess give me a 5 channel you would recommend and then what you would actually suggest running (4 channel and a mono?).

4. Last question for now, would you suggest to attempt to run an active setup and bypass the crossovers that come with the components? Or just run it straight up as the package comes? If I ran active, would I need a pair of 4-channel amps? 4 channels for the fronts and then 2 for the rear and a bridged pair for the sub?

Sorry for all that, really trying to pin this down. Thanks so much for your help!

 

Ok, y'all. Going crazy trying to figure this all out in time for Christmas. I've attached a few pictures of the space below that seat where I want to install the sub. Can I make it work?



From left to right, thats 4.5", then 5.5", then 6", then finally 8". The depth of the space (front to rear) is roughtly 13".



The width of the space is roughly 19".

Thanks! Oh and I found a place here that showed up on Polks Authorized Dealer page. Drove over there and they literally had inventory everywhere. Looked a little sketch, but they had the speakers in stock right where I could see them. Had the MM6501's for $190 and the MM571's for $120. Didn't have the sub. Go for it on the speakers?

 

i would say a shallow mount and have a shop build a box for it. they should be able to carpet it and make it look factory.

 

So you think I should ditch my Polk MM1040 and head back to the shallow mount drawing board huh? I'm exhausted! Haha. How far is englewood from Naples? I'll be in Naples in a couple weeks.

 

I just looked up and technically, that Polk sub is a shallow mount. Not as shallow as some, but it is listed as a shallow mount.

 

1. I definitely think you should try to find a shallower sub, I just don't really see a box that would work well right there for a sub that deep. I'd look for something like <4" mounting depth. I think you could pull the airspace with a lot of bends in the box, but it seems like it's not gonna be a fun box to build. If nothing else though, there's always polyfill.

2. For a sub of the power your looking at, svc and dvc won't really make much of difference. The main difference would be svc sub's can only be wired one way (so if it's a 4ohm sub, you'd have to wire it at 4ohms). Dvc sub's can be wired two ways, a 2ohm could be wired at either 1ohm or 4ohm's. So go with whatever one matches your amp the best.

3. I'd run 4-channel, and a mono amp. Purely because it's a cheaper combo, I can make sure I can wire subs/speakers to the exact loads I want, and I don't mind the extra power wire. If I could choose an amp to run that's still budget oriented I'd go with alpine or mmats.

If you want to run everything active, you'd need two 4-channel amps, one for the front, one for the rear, and then a mono amp for the sub. On top of that, I'd recommend the rockford 3sixty to help maximize your tuning capabillities.