OK thanks guys. I guess ill go to the store so I can hear these before I make a decision. The HU Im looking at is 50w x4 anyone know what the stock HU is?

 

The one your looking at is 50Wx4 MAX, it's probably ~15Wx4 RMS. Stock is probably around 5-10W RMS.

 

im sorry whats RMS?

 

It's the continuous power output the amplifier is capable of creating at a given distortion limit.

 

You should ignore any power rating that give Max or Peak power. RMS is to only rating worth using.

 

ok thanks. any thoughts on the infinitys or the pioneers?

 

The ones you linked above are A series (TS-Axxx). The D-series units (TS-Dxxx) have a better rep, especially when you put the real wattage to them. Might consider that if an amp is in your future.

I picked up my D6802's on Amazon for $85 a pair, shipped (they did not include speaker adapters - $11.99/pair @ Best Buy). They're direct-fit like the A6882's you're seeing and have taken everything I've thrown at them.

Brad

 

So I listened to some pioneers and infinitys at BB today. Have to say the pioneers sounded better to me. My question is there are three different sets of pioneers ts-d6802, ts-a6882, and ts-a6872 the go from 2 way to 3 way to 4 way. Whats the difference?

 

Dollars, mostly.

When it says X-way it's talking about how many sound producing elements are integrated into the speaker system. A 2-way coaxial speaker is usually configured as the main speaker cone and a tweeter (the little round thingy mounted on a pedestal at the center of the speaker).

The addition of more sound producing elements is taking the dynamic spectrum and chopping it up into smaller bits. That assigns a smaller range of frequencies to each individual element, making them more efficient and effective at cleanly reproducing that particular chunk.

Some three or four way systems will have one, or maybe even two, seperately mounted element(s). The Audiophile system from Ford is a good example. It has a seperate tweeter mounted in the small upper hole you see in the door panel when you remove the speaker grille. Several aftermarket speaker systems have the same thing. You may have seen some of the speakers advertised as "Two piece" or some such. That's what they are talking about. In the description you will probably see a "seperate tweeter" mentioned. Also, any speaker system that has a seperat tweeter assembly will require complete removal of the front door panels. Speakers without the seperate tweet only require you to pop off the speaker grill. (Rear doors require full panel removal no matter what).

I can speak to the D6802s as I have four of them. Two thumbs up from me. They improved the stock H/U sound by only a little (mostly in overall clarity), leading me to a rather blase' opinion of them. That changed entirely with the addition of an amp. With 50w pushing them they really shine. I don't have any experience with the others you mentioned.

Brad