Speaker Help
#16
Brad
#17
IMO, subs dont go in doors.
You cannot effectively make the doors stiff enough on the outside, and sealed enough on the inside (against the skin) to get effective sub-bass. Not to say that it cannot be done to satisfaction (I have seen some thin subs in the doors of a Toyota, but they built a FG enclosure for the door), and you may not need/want the volume or output that I do, etc, but not worth it for me.
If you wanted to try it then I would start with the Tang Band 6x9 or Genesis 6x9 sub, or a Tang Band 6.5" neo sub from Parts Express. The 6.5" is impressive, but gets NOTICEABLY better with a good enclosure.
You cannot effectively make the doors stiff enough on the outside, and sealed enough on the inside (against the skin) to get effective sub-bass. Not to say that it cannot be done to satisfaction (I have seen some thin subs in the doors of a Toyota, but they built a FG enclosure for the door), and you may not need/want the volume or output that I do, etc, but not worth it for me.
If you wanted to try it then I would start with the Tang Band 6x9 or Genesis 6x9 sub, or a Tang Band 6.5" neo sub from Parts Express. The 6.5" is impressive, but gets NOTICEABLY better with a good enclosure.
#18
Thanks for everyones help. Im really just looking to get some better sound than what I have now (stock) for a decent price, I just dont want to lose anything (bass) in the process. If you think that replacement speakers (now) and a new HU (later) will be a noticeable improvement than I think thats what im looking for. I think I have decided to go with the infinity 6829s with the built in crossover. (still not sure what thats for) for my front doors for now. Is there anything else I will need? (adapters)?
#19
#20
Speaker harness adapters are $13 a pair at Best Buy. Plug an play. Also gives you the ability to quickly and easily reinstall the factory speakers should you decide to sell.
Be sure to secure all your wiring lest the window mechanism catch a dangly and rip the circuit board off your new speaks.
Brad
#22
The crossover functions like a proportioning valve in your brake system. Low and mid-range frequencies go to the larger speaker, high frequencies to the tweeter. It's an optimization thing - limiting each part of the speaker to the frequency range it can more efficiently reproduce keeps distortion to a minimum.
Speaker harness adapters are $13 a pair at Best Buy. Plug an play. Also gives you the ability to quickly and easily reinstall the factory speakers should you decide to sell.
Be sure to secure all your wiring lest the window mechanism catch a dangly and rip the circuit board off your new speaks.
Brad
Speaker harness adapters are $13 a pair at Best Buy. Plug an play. Also gives you the ability to quickly and easily reinstall the factory speakers should you decide to sell.
Be sure to secure all your wiring lest the window mechanism catch a dangly and rip the circuit board off your new speaks.
Brad
A good explanation of a crossover.
In the case of most 6x9's, however, they normally only crossover the tweeters with an inline cap, limiting bass frequencies from the smaller speaker. most companies will let the actual woofer part (the 6x9 cone itself) simply roll off naturally (play as high as it can, no cutoff on the frequencies) which *could* cause some breakup or resonance in the cone.
Also, it has been a while since I bought drop in speakers, but IIRC my last set of pioneers (bought in 01 or 02) had a harness in the package so I didnt have to buy the adapters. But they are worth it to many for the reasons Brad listed above.
#23
AZFX4,
I put the 6832's in my truck last week. They are a pretty nice improvement over the stockers with the factory HU. Mines just the single CD baseline unit. I'm doing basically the same as you. Probably gonna order another set of the 6832's or maybe the 682.9's for the front holes. I'll upgrade the HU next, maybe in a couple weeks or so. Then probably add a sub of some sort. Thinking to keep it simple I'll do some sort of powered sub. I'm not looking for monstrous bass, just enough to give it a little punch. I'm way past rattling windows and all that mess.
For what it's worth, I buy most all from Crutchfield. The include all the harnesses, adapters, etc... for the install. I put the foam baffles behind the 6832's when I installed them, but think I'll try the next set without to see what difference, if any, they make.
Good luck, keep us posted.
David
I put the 6832's in my truck last week. They are a pretty nice improvement over the stockers with the factory HU. Mines just the single CD baseline unit. I'm doing basically the same as you. Probably gonna order another set of the 6832's or maybe the 682.9's for the front holes. I'll upgrade the HU next, maybe in a couple weeks or so. Then probably add a sub of some sort. Thinking to keep it simple I'll do some sort of powered sub. I'm not looking for monstrous bass, just enough to give it a little punch. I'm way past rattling windows and all that mess.
For what it's worth, I buy most all from Crutchfield. The include all the harnesses, adapters, etc... for the install. I put the foam baffles behind the 6832's when I installed them, but think I'll try the next set without to see what difference, if any, they make.
Good luck, keep us posted.
David
#24
Brad
#25
Im in the same boat as OP.
With blown front door speaker.
When I search in cructhfield for the recommended Phoenix Gold RSd 65CS I get this product:
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_777P65C...S&ssi=0&tp=106
With blown front door speaker.
When I search in cructhfield for the recommended Phoenix Gold RSd 65CS I get this product:
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_777P65C...S&ssi=0&tp=106
#26
I put in the infinity 682.9's all the way around in my 2006 F150 a few months ago. I have the stock head unit, not the audiophile system.
I can tell you, the clarity and sound quality is better, the highs are much more crisp. As far as bass, I would say it's about the same as the stock system because you do need ALOT of power to drive the speakers optimally.
I would recomend them, and get the head unit later when you can for the bass. Any aftermarket speaker you get with the stock head unit will be underpowered.
I can tell you, the clarity and sound quality is better, the highs are much more crisp. As far as bass, I would say it's about the same as the stock system because you do need ALOT of power to drive the speakers optimally.
I would recomend them, and get the head unit later when you can for the bass. Any aftermarket speaker you get with the stock head unit will be underpowered.
#27
Im in the same boat as OP.
With blown front door speaker.
When I search in cructhfield for the recommended Phoenix Gold RSd 65CS I get this product:
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_777P65C...S&ssi=0&tp=106
With blown front door speaker.
When I search in cructhfield for the recommended Phoenix Gold RSd 65CS I get this product:
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_777P65C...S&ssi=0&tp=106
#28
Ok so I was on amazon today and was about to order the infinitys but then I saw these pioneers.
http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-TS-A68...640021&sr=1-27
The prices are close to the same, but im 90% sure when I do get an HU its going to be a pioneer unit. Would it be better with pioneer speakers to match? Maybe ill go down to Bestbuy and see if they have these speakers so I can listen to them.
I just read online that 4 ways produce less bass than a 2 way. Maybe I should go with the infinitys then? I see pioneer has a 3 way? Man im so confused. Im not looking for pounding bass as I know I would need an amp and sub, I would just like a little bump up from what I have now.
http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-TS-A68...640021&sr=1-27
The prices are close to the same, but im 90% sure when I do get an HU its going to be a pioneer unit. Would it be better with pioneer speakers to match? Maybe ill go down to Bestbuy and see if they have these speakers so I can listen to them.
I just read online that 4 ways produce less bass than a 2 way. Maybe I should go with the infinitys then? I see pioneer has a 3 way? Man im so confused. Im not looking for pounding bass as I know I would need an amp and sub, I would just like a little bump up from what I have now.
Last edited by AZFX4; 04-30-2010 at 11:29 AM.
#30
Brand matching isn't necessary. Some do it because that's the way they like. The signal going to the speaker is the same regardless of the brand, with obvious exceptions for quality of said HU, of course. Get the speakers that sound good to you. I'm actually about to order Infinity components for my fronts today. Going with these:
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_1086820...cs.html?tp=106
That price is gonna be hard to beat. Now just deciding which 4-channel amp to order.
David
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_1086820...cs.html?tp=106
That price is gonna be hard to beat. Now just deciding which 4-channel amp to order.
David