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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 07:03 PM
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Haha, shorty.

Good thing ya got steps on your truck, huh.



Im sorry, I like to make fun of short people. My best friend is like 5' 8" and we usually just refer to him as "the midget"
LOL Shorty? I'm average height, dangit!

But your right, I'm glad I got those steps!
 
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 09:09 PM
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Ahhh... 6'1" and lovin' it.

Back at hand - I think I'm going to start building a box..
 
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by brypink2
It would be less than $20 (I think), not positive...I'm in San Diego, so I would think less than $20. I just shipped my other one to Colorado (that needs a seat lift) for $20.

I'm at work and will be home Wed. night to find out exact shipping cost.
do you still have the box?
 
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by brypink2
Dude, you don't need a seat lift to fit the older W6s! The have a mounting depth of just under 5".
It's not a matter of just fitting them. The reason no main stream manufacture makes a dual 10" box for the 97 - 99 is due to the impossibility of providing enough space even with a lift kit to not only get the sub to sound it's best but that also it will eventually cause the sub to degrade. I do think it's the best choice and with a good sub will sound good even still. But almost all mfg r's end up with about .65 in the end. I'm going to start a build this weekend and will let you know the dim. and such if I end up with something worth duplicating. My truck is a 99 w/first gen seat that folds over forward and rests on floor.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by twstd02
do you still have the box?
Yes.
Originally Posted by RkyMtnFordFan
It's not a matter of just fitting them. The reason no main stream manufacture makes a dual 10" box for the 97 - 99 is due to the impossibility of providing enough space even with a lift kit to not only get the sub to sound it's best but that also it will eventually cause the sub to degrade. I do think it's the best choice and with a good sub will sound good even still. But almost all mfg r's end up with about .65 in the end. I'm going to start a build this weekend and will let you know the dim. and such if I end up with something worth duplicating. My truck is a 99 w/first gen seat that folds over forward and rests on floor
The original poster has a 2005 F150 Supercrew, not a 1999. Getting the air space needed for his older version 10W6 will be no problem. Trust me, I've built a couple different boxes for mine over the last 8 months. The older 10W6's call for .625 ft^3, if he were to get a prefab box...it would work fine.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by brypink2
Yes.


The original poster has a 2005 F150 Supercrew, not a 1999. Getting the air space needed for his older version 10W6 will be no problem. Trust me, I've built a couple different boxes for mine over the last 8 months. The older 10W6's call for .625 ft^3, if he were to get a prefab box...it would work fine.
You don't have any dimensions for the boxes you've built, do you?

I'd rather build one, then buy one..
 
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Old Apr 29, 2006 | 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by brypink2
Yes.


The original poster has a 2005 F150 Supercrew, not a 1999. Getting the air space needed for his older version 10W6 will be no problem. Trust me, I've built a couple different boxes for mine over the last 8 months. The older 10W6's call for .625 ft^3, if he were to get a prefab box...it would work fine.
I agree. I looked at my JL documents last night and saw that it wants that size. Only thing that troubles me would be that you deduct for the size of driver going into the cabnet. JL did the math and the enclosure size taking in account spk displacement they recommend is 18x11x9. But I'm going to try it because I hear what you are saying.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2006 | 10:55 AM
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I'm anxious to get a box.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2006 | 11:33 AM
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I'm anxious to get a box.
Me to! I'm going to try and build one today. Sure is hard to get someone to cough up dimensions. The box I have now really sounds good but is in the way and in Denver the street urchins will pop your window and ******, grab and run in broad daylight. I need stealth for the amateur thieves at least. Anything I come up with that works for me w/2" lift of seat should be useable by you. If it turns out good I will give you the details. I must have 3/4 mdf and most boxes out there are 5/8". I have 2-JL 10w3v2-D4's in a sealed and partioned box w/320 RMS ea right now and they drive hard as nails.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2006 | 11:50 AM
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LOL Shorty? I'm average height, dangit!

But your right, I'm glad I got those steps!
LOL...I did a study of the off-road motorcycle manufactures and how they build and target their product to the consumer. Every single motor cycle built for competitive Motocross/GNCC/Enduro etc is tailored for the average US consumer which has been determined 5'-9", 164lbs. Anyone shorter or taller must change. Tall guys look retarded on an off road bike. Like Sasquatch on wheels...lol Big and clumsy...opps did I say that out loud? Sorry I just like making fun of big clumsy guys cause they can't snowboard, look like an ape on a bike, require a huge metal belt buckle for counter balance in the middle of their body to make up for the lack of coordination they usually have...opps....sorry just came out like I was one of those pint sized Napoleon complex munchkins.... JK of course..my best riding buddy is giant and after the ride people move out the way as we enter the watering hole.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2006 | 12:18 PM
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You guys who are wanting dimensions; make a cardboard mock-up(a roll of wide scotch tape is almost mandatory). It's so easy to do and it's almost foolproof. Do some reasonably good measuring of the space, make the mock-up box, and see if it fits. Go from there. If you need to make adjustments, it's a lot easier to trim the cardboard than it is to make a box that doesn't fit and try to modify it. When doing your calculations, make allowances for thickness of the MDF or whatever you're using. Be certain to allow for proper clearances where they need to be, and don't forget to make sure your outside dimensions stay where they need to be. Check and double check BEFORE glueing and screwing. It's a variation of the old adage, "measure twice, cut once". Above all, be patient. Cutting corners(no pun intended) during an installation, hurrying, and those kinds of things, you will regret later on. Any compromises you make during any kind of installation, box building, whatever, will affect the performance of your finished product to a degree, depending on the degree of your impatience. You can take perfectly good equipment with perfectly good capabilities, muck up your installation and make it sound very ordinary, or worse.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2006 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by SSpiro
You don't have any dimensions for the boxes you've built, do you?

I'd rather build one, then buy one..
My dimensions are way too big for the 10W6 (old versions).

Anyway, with a seat lift....8" up front, 6" back side, 16"-18" from front to back, 5.5" - 6" for the bracket cut out, 13" long for the short side and 32" long for the long side. Those are the basic for a down firing type box. These are not exact...you MUST double check to see if they will work for you.

Just a heads up....I might be selling my current box. The one that has 2 JL 10W7's. The subs too.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2006 | 03:00 PM
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I don't need to/want to do the seat lift anyway.. I'm trying to keep it stock.

I'll follow 97F250's suggestions with cardboard. Sounds like a good idea. I'm anxious, I want to get these subs installed.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2006 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 97f250
You guys who are wanting dimensions; make a cardboard mock-up(a roll of wide scotch tape is almost mandatory). It's so easy to do and it's almost foolproof. Do some reasonably good measuring of the space, make the mock-up box, and see if it fits. Go from there. If you need to make adjustments, it's a lot easier to trim the cardboard than it is to make a box that doesn't fit and try to modify it. When doing your calculations, make allowances for thickness of the MDF or whatever you're using. Be certain to allow for proper clearances where they need to be, and don't forget to make sure your outside dimensions stay where they need to be. Check and double check BEFORE glueing and screwing. It's a variation of the old adage, "measure twice, cut once". Above all, be patient. Cutting corners(no pun intended) during an installation, hurrying, and those kinds of things, you will regret later on. Any compromises you make during any kind of installation, box building, whatever, will affect the performance of your finished product to a degree, depending on the degree of your impatience. You can take perfectly good equipment with perfectly good capabilities, muck up your installation and make it sound very ordinary, or worse.
Perfect info! Thank you for at least the validation that what I have been doing today is on track. After my last post this morning I went out to start the project and did just that. I bring home from work these 4' x 4' pcs of card board that get stapled to the top of a shrink wrapped pallet of cardboard boxes. We get a ton in and I keep them around the garage for ever thing from oil changes to Jr painting a model car body. Yep..took me about 90 seconds to decide a mock up would be the best route. And you know, no matter what someone has in their truck that may be like yours, its always best to control your destiny just as you said and brypink2 eluded to as well. Perfect post though 97F250...very nice!
Back to the laboratory for some MDF cutting.....Peace Out!
 
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Old Apr 30, 2006 | 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by RkyMtnFordFan
Perfect info! Thank you for at least the validation that what I have been doing today is on track. After my last post this morning I went out to start the project and did just that. I bring home from work these 4' x 4' pcs of card board that get stapled to the top of a shrink wrapped pallet of cardboard boxes. We get a ton in and I keep them around the garage for ever thing from oil changes to Jr painting a model car body. Yep..took me about 90 seconds to decide a mock up would be the best route. And you know, no matter what someone has in their truck that may be like yours, its always best to control your destiny just as you said and brypink2 eluded to as well. Perfect post though 97F250...very nice!
Back to the laboratory for some MDF cutting.....Peace Out!
Thanks RkyMtn.

By the way, you guys start making fun of short people, I'm gonna be on you like stink on a skunk's ***. Make fun of old short people and it's gonna get really ugly. Make fun of pudgy old short people and it's all over. HA HA......
 
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