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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 02:09 PM
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er, wait did i read that right? he's worried about the weld?
 
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 04:07 PM
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Im not making any claims as to it being better or worse. . . I do know that all my low end torque at the moment is almost pointless ! ! . . . I can absolutely break the tires loose with 12 lbs on my stock blower, and Im not looking to break my tranny by adding slicks to the rear.
That's one reason why I chose the Procharger. It gave me power where I didn't have any before (my truck was a 97 with cr@ppy NPI heads that didn't breathe).

Plus, pulling a heavy boat up a slick launch ramp was hard enough when my truck was stock...a gradual boost build-up means it's much easier to control wheelspin.

Centrifugal blowers work very well at the track...but if you've got a monster motor in a track truck then *I think* a D1SC may not be enough blower for you. It's not significantly more blower than a P1SC. The reason why I say this is because 12 psi is starting to push it for a P1SC on a 5.4, and a D1SC turning the same blower speeds may only net you a couple more psi. I'd talk with the ATI techs to be sure.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 05:39 PM
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I was under the impression the lightning/whipple setup was #1 - Everywhere in the RPM's - high and low. Maybe not ehh.?
 
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by jbrew
I was under the impression the lightning/whipple setup was #1 - Everywhere in the RPM's - high and low. Maybe not ehh.?
no your right, its EVERYWHERE lol.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 07:15 PM
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Well, it's to bad you can't use both @ the same time -Roots & PC - That would make for a hell of a Kompressor (with a "K").
 
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Klitch
er, wait did i read that right? he's worried about the weld?
Some people " weld " with superglue ! ! ! But I dont consider that welding.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 09:19 PM
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Well, it's to bad you can't use both @ the same time -Roots & PC - That would make for a hell of a Kompressor (with a "K").
Hellion is making a kit for the Terminators that does just that. Twin turbos that feed the stock Eaton. It made 9XXrwhp on componded boost. Best of both worlds.
A Lightning kit would be awesome.
http://www.hellionpowersystems.com/
 
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 09:31 PM
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HOLEY SH^T !!

So that's what 900 ponies sounds like. Damn , it even looks like a DD still.

I'd like to see that run ...

Bet I could do some wicked nasty 4wheeling w/that motor planted on top of the axle
 
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Old Apr 26, 2008 | 01:06 AM
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so now your gonna be a jack a$$ after you called him out on a subject that hasn't even been mentioned in this thread? if you know so much more about everything why dont you have the most BA truck on this site. faster150
lol im just giving u grief dont take it to heart
 
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Old Apr 26, 2008 | 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Norm
Just ignore Faster150, we all do. He has shown many times how little he actually knows. Welcome to the forum.
Roots blowers tend to be 40–50% efficient at high boost levels. Centrifugal Superchargers are 70–85% efficient. Lysholm-style blowers can be nearly as efficient as their centrifugal counterparts over a narrow range of load/speed/boost, for which the system must be specifically designed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercharger


Centrifugal superchargers use a turbine-type compressor. As described above, centrifugal superchargers have superior adiabatic efficiency, which means they can provide more horsepower per PSI of boost (their higher charge density allows more fuel and their cooler air allows more ignition advance). Additionally, centrifugals provide a relatively linear boost curve, meaning they typically provide greater power gains than a Roots-type blower at the upper RPM ranges.

However, centrifugal superchargers, like turbos, don't provide much power right off the line. Centrifugals make linear boost, meaning that boost rises linearly with RPMs. On the other hand, positive displacement blowers are usually delivering nearly full boost by about 2,000 RPMs, giving that "big-block" kind of torque feeling (great readings on the "butt dyno"). This early delivery of boost makes a Roots-type blower ideal for cruising in the Valk. Instant throttle response and handfuls of torque -- the perfect power adder for the perfect cruiser! Once again, Downing Atlanta's description is right on the money

http://www.timskelton.com/valkyrie/t...percharger.htm

and another one..
 
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Old Apr 26, 2008 | 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by jbrew
Well, it's to bad you can't use both @ the same time -Roots & PC - That would make for a hell of a Kompressor (with a "K").
they call them compound setups the have twin turbo's blowing through the supercharger. the roots blower compresses the air the turbo is blowing in.. damn near doubles the boost numbers. theres a ford GT setup and a cobra setup making crazy numbers!
 
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Old Apr 26, 2008 | 01:38 AM
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I believe you showed me that cobra before Fast - I think that was a black one if I remember right..
 
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Old Apr 26, 2008 | 04:02 PM
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Well . . .what if I procharged my stock roots blower. ? shouldnt be all that hard !

All I need is is to get longer bolts and spacers for the crank pulley and stack on another pulley and weld at the seams. Then just space the blower out off the motor to match the crank pulley and connect to the intake !
Good / bad idea ?

Any ideas on if my mass air will hold up to 1400 cfm . . if not, where can I get one the cheapest and will it work with my stock computer ?

I already upgraded to 42 lb injectors . . think that will hold up ?
 
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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 03:07 PM
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anyone ?
 
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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 03:13 PM
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you would for sure need a bigger MAF meter, a custom tune, and 42lb injectors wouldnt do it.
 
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