Pre-1997 Models

93 f150 front end issues

Old Feb 26, 2010 | 12:25 AM
  #16  
Tumba's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,512
Likes: 1
From: >wwOwww<
Originally Posted by Tannerf150
so it's the radius arm bushing? thats it?
That's my bet I havent worked on them for awhile, but that is what they are called.
 
Reply
Old Feb 26, 2010 | 01:38 PM
  #17  
Tannerf150's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Member
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 90
Likes: 0
From: Illinois
Originally Posted by Tumba
I think maybe your I beam bushings are bad. In the bottom picture you posted, do you see the support bar your shock is mounted to. That is the radius support for the Ibeam. It stops the Ibeam from moving back and forth as you have described. At the other end of it where it mounts to the frame it has rubber bushings in it. That is what holds your Ibeam from moving back and forth, so it keeps the toe from changing. If those bushings are bad I'm sure there is a lot of noise coming from the front end. If it has been that way for a long time the bushings may even have fallen out. But on the other end you will see a threaded stud, that goes through a cup on the frame. There should be a bushing on each side of each one.
I crawled under it today and it has 1 black pushing on the front end side of the truck and 1 white on the back side where the nut threads in, and What do you mean I have no ball joints do you mean where the Radius are connects, Theres a big bolt going from the bottom all the way to the bottom of the coil spring is that what your talking about? does it have bushing that can go bad?
 
Reply
Old Feb 26, 2010 | 01:52 PM
  #18  
Tannerf150's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Member
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 90
Likes: 0
From: Illinois
The front bushing on the passenger side.
Name:  DSCF0029.jpg
Views: 1628
Size:  54.4 KB


the back bushing on the drivers side
Name:  DSCF0030.jpg
Views: 1641
Size:  56.7 KB


where it all connects into the ibeam
Name:  DSCF0031-1.jpg
Views: 1673
Size:  78.1 KB


Ball joints on the far right and the kingpin on the left.
Name:  DSCF0032-2.jpg
Views: 1646
Size:  49.9 KB
 
Reply
Old Feb 26, 2010 | 11:01 PM
  #19  
Tumba's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,512
Likes: 1
From: >wwOwww<
The radius arm bushings do seem to look OK. Is there any slack when you push forward or backward on the IBeams? That is where I thought the slack maybe coming from.

If you have no slack in the tie rods, drag link, or Ibeams, you should be able to get an alignment that will stop wearing your tires. But you stated your toe in changes depending on the direction you are going. There would have to be slack in on of the above listed parts.

How about where th Ibeams mount to the frame, are the bushings there in good shape? I've never seen them go bad , but I guess it could happen.


The hubs don't have ball joints. Those are just pins, that allow it to pivot. But you said your Father couldn't get any slack while working the tire up and down while on a jack. So there shouldn't be a problem there.
 
Reply
Old Feb 26, 2010 | 11:30 PM
  #20  
Tannerf150's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Member
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 90
Likes: 0
From: Illinois
Yes he said he's jerked the tires around up and down side to side and there is no play and when you set it down off the jack the tires are perfect as soon as you drive it there / \ or \ / when going forward. and he said it's done that since the day he bought it brand new with 10 miles on it.
 
Reply
Old Feb 27, 2010 | 06:18 AM
  #21  
Tumba's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,512
Likes: 1
From: >wwOwww<
The Post #3 by Kenny McCormick is true (what he said about the wat the supension works) but that should show when you get an alignment, and it would be compensated for. But there has to be some slack in some thing to sause your problem. I'm at a loss. How many times has it been aligned, and was it by the same shop?
 
Reply
Old Feb 27, 2010 | 11:00 AM
  #22  
Tannerf150's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Member
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 90
Likes: 0
From: Illinois
Haha it's never been aligned but I will be getting aligned after I get what I need on it. I guess I'm savin for coil springs,inner tierod and Draglink and Radius arm bushings.
 
Reply
Old Feb 27, 2010 | 02:36 PM
  #23  
Windsor's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 1,650
Likes: 2
From: The Bayou State
You also have rubber bushings where the twin beams pivot. On the 4x4 trucks that use that set up there are camber bushings with different offsets to help set the camber to the right angle. I believe the 4x2s use a similar set up. Moog makes replacement coil springs.
 
Reply
Old Feb 27, 2010 | 11:07 PM
  #24  
Tannerf150's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Member
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 90
Likes: 0
From: Illinois
What your saying is where the 2 ibeams connect to the Frame in the middle? is that what you mean?
 
Reply
Old Mar 4, 2010 | 01:48 PM
  #25  
Tannerf150's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Member
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 90
Likes: 0
From: Illinois
Here are some pictures of the I-beam bushings where the connect into the frame bracket.... There pretty nasty looking in my opinion.

Name:  DSCF0086.jpg
Views: 1664
Size:  40.7 KB


Name:  DSCF0085.jpg
Views: 1624
Size:  40.9 KB


Name:  DSCF0084.jpg
Views: 1702
Size:  37.1 KB
 
Reply
Old Mar 27, 2010 | 11:52 PM
  #26  
Tannerf150's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Member
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 90
Likes: 0
From: Illinois
Well my bushings look fine everywhere, And I have a feeling the 2' lift coil spring inner tie rod and an alignment will fix my problem but any others think different please tell
 
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2010 | 12:18 PM
  #27  
adlkutzler's Avatar
Member
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
From: Greats Falls MT
I had the same thing on my 94. I put new ball joints in and didn't change a thing untill i took it in and got new caster chamber bushings put in then it was back to normal
 
Reply
Old Mar 29, 2010 | 11:21 AM
  #28  
Tannerf150's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Member
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 90
Likes: 0
From: Illinois
Yeah my dad swares the balljoints are fine but yeah I play on getting it aligned will they do bushings when they align it or is that a whole new story?
 
Reply
Old Apr 7, 2010 | 11:08 PM
  #29  
Tannerf150's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Member
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 90
Likes: 0
From: Illinois
Thanks so much everyone for the help, I plan on buying some 2' lift coil springs to level the front and make it stronger and then align it hopefully that works
 
Reply
Old Apr 21, 2010 | 02:22 PM
  #30  
Tannerf150's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Member
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 90
Likes: 0
From: Illinois
My dad said before I buy coil springs I need to get shocks put on it since he put 16$ set of shocks on it 5 years ago and said it would help it. so I bought shocks I was wondering your guy's opinion on it if you think it will help or not I know my steering linkage's need aligned big time but I want to get everything I need put on it to make it better and cheaper on an alingment because I am only 16 with a seasonal job at a farm at 7.50 an hour and my parrents said my truck is a lost cause and Duh I have to prove them wrong because no ford truck is a lost cause!
 
Reply

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:22 AM.