Pre-1997 Models

can you beleive this

Old Jan 1, 2003 | 05:21 AM
  #1  
SPROCKET_X's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Senior Member
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 1,354
Likes: 0
From: Valencia, California
Angry can you beleive this

http://autoweek.com/cat_content.mv?p..._code=00601529

Toyota joining Nascar.....it started out as an American sport and should stay that way!
 
Reply
Old Jan 1, 2003 | 07:46 AM
  #2  
PKRWUD's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Sep 1999
Posts: 3,083
Likes: 0
From: Ventura, California
There goes the neighborhood.

 
Reply
Old Jan 1, 2003 | 09:52 AM
  #3  
Jetter's Avatar
Member
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 42
Likes: 0
From: Calcutta, OH
What could they possibly be thinking. Must be all about money. When it gets to that, greed takes over and they forget all about the history and heritage of the series. That BLOWS.
 
Reply
Old Jan 1, 2003 | 11:34 AM
  #4  
Ford4ever's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 1,623
Likes: 0
From: Lockport, NY USA
Actually Toyotas been kicking but in NASCAR racing for years, they just havent been competing in the Winston Cup and Busch series that everyone's familier with.

Actually Toyota is an american car company, they built more vehicles is the US then Ford did last year. Most Ford, Chevy, and Dodges are built in Canada or Mexico.

-Jon
 
Reply
Old Jan 1, 2003 | 04:51 PM
  #5  
TF's Avatar
TF
Senior Member
Joined: Feb 2000
Posts: 467
Likes: 0
From: California
So which stock car racing series has Toyota been kicking but in, and what kind of engines have they been using? Just curious.
 
Reply
Old Jan 1, 2003 | 05:07 PM
  #6  
Rockpick's Avatar
Moderator &
Senior Member
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 31,440
Likes: 4
From: The Bluegrass State
Geesh...

Another sport that will have the Japanese influence...

They're flowing into every sport imaginable (less basketball)...

They're pitching in baseball...

They're sinking puts on the PGA tour...

Now, they're going to be taking the checker on the track...

BLAH


RP
 
Reply
Old Jan 1, 2003 | 05:21 PM
  #7  
Ford4ever's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 1,623
Likes: 0
From: Lockport, NY USA
TF - they've been racing in the Nascar Goody's Dash series, i think there are 4 teams running Celicas with a V6 wedged in them. I think theyre the only ones running an overhead cam engine.


I heard a rumor that Nascar Winston cup is gonna switch from carburation to fuel injection. Anyone know when thats supposed to happen?


-Jon
 
Reply
Old Jan 1, 2003 | 05:48 PM
  #8  
StrangeRanger's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: May 1999
Posts: 2,477
Likes: 0
From: Copley, Ohio
Probably the same point in time they allow OHC engines Anyone find it interesting that Ford, GM and Mopar no longer produce any vehicles which use the engines they race in the "stock" car series?
 
Reply
Old Jan 1, 2003 | 05:55 PM
  #9  
Jetter's Avatar
Member
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 42
Likes: 0
From: Calcutta, OH
Sorry, I hate to disagree, but just because they build cars here does NOT make them an AMERICAN car company. They are still a foreign owned company.
 
Reply
Old Jan 1, 2003 | 06:12 PM
  #10  
inski21's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 880
Likes: 0
From: Maine
Originally posted by PKRWUD
There goes the neighborhood.

Cats and Dogs sleeping together.

There was a Japanese guy racing in a couple Winton cup Races this past season, did you noticed that. He didn't really seem to have the knack for it. I don't know why they would want to get into NASCAR, they wouldn't let me into Japanese Super Touring, would they!


It just doesn't sound right...."Mark Martin just spun his Camry in turn 3!"
 
Reply
Old Jan 1, 2003 | 07:19 PM
  #11  
StrangeRanger's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: May 1999
Posts: 2,477
Likes: 0
From: Copley, Ohio
Originally posted by Jetter
They are still a foreign owned company.
So, sadly, is Dodge. Chrysler Corp. was definietly the minority partner in the DCX "merger"
 
Reply
Old Jan 1, 2003 | 08:23 PM
  #12  
PKRWUD's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Sep 1999
Posts: 3,083
Likes: 0
From: Ventura, California
Originally posted by Jetter
Sorry, I hate to disagree, but just because they build cars here does NOT make them an AMERICAN car company. They are still a foreign owned company.
That is correct. The only reason they build them here is to escape the tariffs. The bulk of the money made goes to Japan, where it remains in THEIR economy.

Take care,
~Chris
 
Reply
Old Jan 1, 2003 | 08:48 PM
  #13  
Ford4ever's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 1,623
Likes: 0
From: Lockport, NY USA
Toyota also builds the drivetrain for the Pontiac Vibe and the small chevy cars that have the 1.8L engines.

Oh well, at least i get paid enough to fix them that i can buy Ford parts.


-Jon
 
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2003 | 01:12 AM
  #14  
beastie's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 1,856
Likes: 0
From: New Orleans
Well there will be one big way to distinguish them, the Fords, GM, and Dondges will redline at 9000rpms, the Toyotas will be more like 15000 LOL
 
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2003 | 02:26 AM
  #15  
signmaster's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 1,317
Likes: 0
From: Virginia Beach, VA
Being that "stock car" racing no longer even remotely resembles anything you can buy, it doesn't bother me at all.

As for ownership, all the major car companies are traded openly on the stock exhange. I could just as easily profit from investing in Toyota as I could from Ford. Granted more of the executive salaries will tend to go to the companys root country.

I don't watch any stock car racing unless I'm bored and it's the only racing on. The rules just plain suck IMO. Other than the body, which they are also playing with now, the majority of the cars used can't even be bought in a RWD V8 configuration, much less anything that resembles the engines used.

If they are trying to keep the field even make a new IROC series. Change brands every year to keep the advertising up. If they are going to allow cars to have no similarities to stock except the body anyway, then they should loosen up the engine specs. Set max displacement and weight minimums on the cars and let development take place, similar to F1.

Current rules allow a fairly high displacement, but then turn around and restrict the intake. They end up with engines good for nothing other than this type of racing.
 
Reply

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:56 AM.