Curious why you think it is not from you gaining maturity and knowledge along the way. Had you completed a degree in a field other than what you were working in, would that not have been a difficult task ?

Learning should get easier as time goes on, not harder or stay the same.

I never experienced this myself, no reports or filler elective courses ( to 'round out' a student's education ).
The school had a library with the material to finish the coursework.

Reading the material be it online or in a book takes about the same amount of time.
After you graduated, you already did the research into the material, so when you did a yahoo search, it was easier to know which ones looked unreliable. If you did not have the knowledge that you gained, how would you know which ones to remove ?
- Still have to read the unreliable material and figure out if the referring material was from a reliable source. Book in it's 3rd pressing has had quite a bit of correction and verification done to it.

What you find the internet might be supposition or conjecture, find too much of that on Wikis. Try Wikipedia for "Sir Robert Peale" , does not even come up. Suggests "Sir Robert Peake" as the option.

Internet search will get you a list quicker than a card file ( or electronic version of the same ) but once you have 10,000 URLs, how do you know which ones to use ?
The person grading the work knows ( or should know ) the material, and still at the moment learned it from the books in the school library. Someone that read those books and published a web page on Sir Robert Peale, might have his facts mixed up.
Try a search on Shakespeare on the internet. The internet gave a louder voice to those who think his works were done by others ( Sir Francis Bacon comes to mind ). Shakespeare was a lower middle class person ( per people's opinions ) that did not have the means to travel to the places he wrote about in the detail he did.
I can get the "card file results" quicker on the internet, but does that make them correct, and how does someone that knows little on the topic know this ?

 

This is just unreal.
If that is accurate ( and it sounds like the POTUS from what I saw of him in IL ), getting sick of hearing about how the federal govt is speeding too much is a function of spending too much. If it hurts when you move your arm like that, stop moving it that way...

No matter how much people try to make an analogy to personal spending habits vs the federal govt, some people do not get it.

Tax increases happened ( not enough in my book - should have been back to Clinton era tax rates for all ) now it is time to address the spending.

This is what was agreed to last time the govt hit the max they could borrow, now the rules are trying to be changed.
The claim of more revenue ( after the part return of Clinton era tax rates ) before spending cuts are going to be made is just more "us vs them" from the POTUS.

All over the media for the past 2 years was "the rich need to pay their fair share".
Now that they are, and it does not solve the problem, what is going to be his next sound bite ?

Got to love this weeks The Economist. The cover had the POTUS dressed in French clothes and the Speaker of the House dressed in German clothes, making the comparison to the European Union issues.
The French are taking issue with it, the Germans could care less.

 

Never said I went to college. I will say however that in the high school I went to, if you did work like you are claiming, you would have flunked. And if you had done work like that in business's I have worked at, you would have been fired.

 

Because I had essentially finished my required courses so the only thing left was anything I wanted. I was contemplating getting a minor in business. Since I had no background in business all of the information was new.

You know if a link is valuable by evaluating the link, just like I did everyday when interviewing people. The more you do it the more links you get that are relatively reliable. A general rule is anything Wiki is useless, except as a gateway to other links, but they are typically slanted to the author's purpose. Starting is slow, but as you gain more links on your reliable list the quicker you can do your research. Something else I noticed when I went back to school is the text books typically had a list of reliable links. You also don't have to worry about a book being checked out on the internet. The information is always there.

 

Spending hours in the lab doing the assignments and hours doing the class room studying material to pass tests would get me flunked out of a EE program ???? OK....
- Professors must have been off their meds with me doing the course work required to get a degree.

I don't know what you are referring to with business, I was talking about the article in terms of college students, not work.

Don't know where you get any idea of how I am at work ( you drifted off with this topic, I was talking about the objective test scores from college students. )

- BTW : I still take meeting notes with customers in a notebook, using the Cornell note taking method.
The customer sees that I paying attention to what they are saying, where others that type on a laptop, they always have the thought "is he doing email, and not paying attention to my concerns and requirements ?"
Customers like it, as I can spin the notebook around and have them notate a diagram that I drew when I ask a clarifying question.

I scan the notes, and attach them to the opportunity in SalesForce.com, so anyone working on the deal, can see the diagrams and notes I took.
I use this as the basis for the task assignments in SFDC, so any task can pull up my noted and read the items themselves.
I always get compliments on the level of detail and organization I have with my customer notes.
- Tasks and follow up items are listed with due dates in a single area, major points are summarized in a single section.

 

SSCULLY-- I think what was different with your degree is it was essentially a trade school. You were being taught how to perform a job, no different than a doctor or a lawyer. Your job is one that really does require a degree and the degree is for a specific type job. Most degrees aren't like that. Most are CJ, Business, Psych, etc, where they are essentially theoretical in nature. They are for jobs that don't really require a degree, but its nice to have it.

 

Funny the younger generation aren't complaining. and they aren't worried one bit.

 

That is not what you stated. You stated, just look in an encyclopedia to get your info. For that you would have failed as it isn't even the minimum. You now state you spent hours in the lab getting the information, which proves my point. That info is now much more readily available and easier to find. Thank you for proving my point.

 

Please re-read my posts above

- the underline part you keep conveniently leaving off for some reason...

The lab ( and class ) work was in college.

The lab part was actual labs, which has zero to do with proving your point.
The lab was implementing what we learned in class that day from the one book the class used as the information ( no need to go searching anywhere else, it was all in that one book ).
This is building circuits & creating controls for them ( solid state designs or program controlled on Z-80 trainer modules ).

It was assumed once you learned something the previous year, that you had this knowledge. If one were a poor student, they might need last years book to look something up, but this did not scale ( could not haul around 3 years of books, and exams were not open book until the sr project ), and these students did not make it to the end ( poor test marks from not studying ).

To take your opinion of what would or would not result in a failing grade in school ( or the linkage of studying to test scores in college ), is akin to taking the pope's view on sex, it is from a purely theoretical point of view.