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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 11:21 PM
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Mitt Romney!!

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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 01:03 AM
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Romney is a douche just like 99% of politicians out there. I definitely like Ron Paul though.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 07:38 AM
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There isn't one republican who instills confidence in me. Ron Paul has some appeal to me, but I don't think that middle America is going to embrace a libraterian. Too far from the middle and too close to anarchy.

No matter how lacluster the republican offerings are, they all, any one of them, would lift the weight of apprehension that the current occupier of the White House has laid apon our country.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by wittom
There isn't one republican who instills confidence in me. Ron Paul has some appeal to me, but I don't think that middle America is going to embrace a libraterian. Too far from the middle and too close to anarchy.

No matter how lacluster the republican offerings are, they all, any one of them, would lift the weight of apprehension that the current occupier of the White House has laid apon our country.
That is where Rommey has you fooled... He is just a white version of Obama.

He is really not even conservative.

Paul is the only one that is a true conservative, that is why he is "so far from the middle."
 
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 08:39 AM
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No matter how lacluster the republican offerings are, they all, any one of them, would lift the weight of apprehension that the current occupier of the White House has laid apon our country.
From what I see, Corporate America has a need to increase employee headcount. To the point companies will post positions, and go through the selection / interview process and take the do nothing option. Think they are scared to do anything, less Obama gets reelected and the back 4 will be much worse than the front 4 with in terms of running wild.

Few things hanging over the heads of the 113th congress and the next POTUS.

1. The Health care law implementation
- See if the numbers the CBO put out are real, and how much the waivers are going to cost tax payers. CBO had the plan at $ 200B/10 yrs short. This was without the wavers short changing the revenue needed to run the program.

2. The resulting reductions in spending increases from the Super Committee's lack of action.
- This is 2.1T / 10 years for reductions in spending increases. In other words, have increases in the spending that is happening today, just 2.1T less. This was the great hammer hanging over the heads of these 6 individuals. The govt does not have the money to pay for what we are spending today, so we are to not increase this spending as much over the next 10 years, but it is still going to be increased.

3. The short changing of Social Security for 13 months so far.
- and at least another month coming up. This will be one of those extend 2 months until after the election actions. Figures a politician from IL does not care about having a pension system that is going to go bust, IL is on the same tract. Add to this, it is illegal by IL constitution to make the employees put in more towards their pension ( or health care cost increases ).
No wonder why this is a great idea from the POTUS, and makes the GOP look like the bad guy on not wanting to extend it without figuring out how to pay for it.

These are the 3 major items that I see, there are still other non minor items hanging over the heads of the next congress and POTUS ( Syria & Iran mess come to mind ). I look at this an wonder who wants to run this mess from 2013 to 2017 ?
 
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 10:11 AM
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mitt romney is a total sham! Ron paul is the only logical candidate. the MSM which includes Fox News, is down playing him so much! last night they said that Perry still had a chance in SC when he only got 1% of the votes!! Fox is full of it!! all the while they are dissing paul saying that he should run for a independent ballot! I hope Paul blows everyone out of the water when the SC votes are in!!
 
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 10:37 AM
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What Fatherford said-Romney is the white Obama we will get the same from him as we do Obama.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 10:48 AM
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I just signed up to be a volunteer at Ron Pauls website because Im sick of this ****
 
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 11:15 AM
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Yes I tell everyone to vote for this Ron Paul.


 
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 11:26 AM
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http://www.ronpaul2012.com/
 
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 12:54 PM
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The problem with Ron Paul is he either doesn't think his ideas through or he is more interested in talking with no real meat behind it. A perfect example is his idea to get rid of DHS. With the exception of the TSA every component of DHS was in existence prior to DHS. They were consolidated from various departments in the government and the only thing it has accomplished is better information sharing between agencies. Even if he got rid of DHS he would still have to pay just about all of the DHS employees because they are all needed, so the cost savings is non-existent. If you really buy into this idea explain what part of DHS you are willing to cut with the exception of TSA (that's an obvious one).
 
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 01:41 PM
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...With the exception of the TSA every component of DHS was in existence prior to DHS....
Exactly! The U.S. Coast Guard worked just fine before being swallowed by DHS.
In time of war, the CG would fall under the US Navy. Made perfect sense.

... If you really buy into this idea explain what part of DHS you are willing to cut with the exception of TSA (that's an obvious one).
The DHS part. All legitimate components would continue to exist. Paul wants to cut the bureaucratic overhead that was created when DHS was stood up.

He is not some crack pot that wants to sink the Coast Guard.
However, the track record of FEMA, Border Security and Immigration could certainly use some scrutiny.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 07:44 PM
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I just signed up to be a volunteer at Ron Pauls website because Im sick of this ****
If all of the ardent Ron Paul supporters along with the bored democrats who don't have a primary of their own to vote in, who are having a little fun voting in states with open primaries, can get Ron Paul the delegates needed to win the nomination, I will be more than happy to vote for him in the general. Without a second thought. See, I complain way too much not to vote. I'm not going to vote for the current occupier of the White House, so I will cast my vote for whoever opposes him.

The problem as I see it is, there is way too much momentum in the direction that progressives are taking our government. It started years ago, before Obama. He just went full throttle ahead twords socialism. I don't see any one person who can stop the momentum. Any one of these republican candidates can only serve as a human speed bump. It's going to take some time to hault this momentum. Ron Paul says some appealing things, but if people think that he's going to be able to stand in front of our big, bloated government, put out his arms and stop it, I think they would be in for a rude awakening.

I think what we need for the four years preceeding Obama is someone who can effectively slow the momentum. One of the top shelf RINO's could do this. After four years, we work on getting someone who can slow it down even more. Maybe even a conservative.

If people can get Ron Paul on the ballot, and even elected, what do they think he can do? Is he going to dictate his ideas? Is he going to woo the legislative branch into passing laws that would implement his ideas?

Like I said, I'm going to vote for Ron Paul if he's on my ballot. If he's not I'm going to vote for who is. Another four years of the current occupier, at this time in my life, could very well spell utter failure. I'd like to know that there is a benefit to working hard. I don't believe that success should be punished, be it my own or anyone elses. I'd rather we encourage everyone to work hard so that they can experience the dignity of their own success, rather than be dependant on the success of others.

If this can all be fixed in the next four years, that's awsome. At a minimum we need to slow the momentum of our big, bloated government. Eventually we'll have slowed it down enough to point it in the right direction.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 09:48 PM
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If people can get Ron Paul on the ballot, and even elected, what do they think he can do? Is he going to dictate his ideas? ...<snip>....
Why not, that is how the current POTUS is doing things.

Senate is not in recess??? No I think they are, here are some recess appointments.
Congress won't pass what you think policy should be, issue executive orders to forge new economic policies for what you want.

See it works just fine. The MSM thinks it is OK, it is for the good of the country, thus we get a self proclaimed dictator.
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 10:22 PM
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...If people can get Ron Paul on the ballot, and even elected, what do they think he can do?..
He can legalize pot.
I haven't thought too much about the other stuff.
 
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