Patman Efan setup
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Patman Efan setup
well ill finally get around to typing this up. Well i built my own controller set up, and am currently running only one 16" fan. The temp controller i bought from auto zone for 20ish bucks. Then i wired it up with a relay and still plan to wire a master on off switch as a saftey back up incase the relay or temp controller fails... I can draw up a wire diagram on the computer, but i dont have time right this minute to do it.
I would imagine the hardest part for the average guy to do would be taking the stock fan clutch off the water pump. I had a special tool that i had access to that hooks up to an air hammer, broke the clutch loose in 5 seconds. But for me the hardest and most time consuming part was laying the wires, creating the harness, and figuring exactly how i wanted to wire the whole thing up.
Now for the pics:
Ground wire
Hot wire I used a fusible link instead of a fuse and you can see that greyish brown wire is the fusible link part
Controller and relay stacked
you can see i twisted the heads of the screws off of the crappy mounting screws it came with.... The screws were bigger then the holes in the supplied bracket, so i didnt take too much to break them off, by hand with a screwdriver.
temp probe and top corner of the fan
I would imagine the hardest part for the average guy to do would be taking the stock fan clutch off the water pump. I had a special tool that i had access to that hooks up to an air hammer, broke the clutch loose in 5 seconds. But for me the hardest and most time consuming part was laying the wires, creating the harness, and figuring exactly how i wanted to wire the whole thing up.
Now for the pics:
Ground wire
Hot wire I used a fusible link instead of a fuse and you can see that greyish brown wire is the fusible link part
Controller and relay stacked
you can see i twisted the heads of the screws off of the crappy mounting screws it came with.... The screws were bigger then the holes in the supplied bracket, so i didnt take too much to break them off, by hand with a screwdriver.
temp probe and top corner of the fan
Last edited by Patman; 03-30-2007 at 11:18 AM.
#3
And here is a video i shot after i finished fine tuning the controller, ive got it set at 205 at the radiator inlet. The hoses were reading about 195-200 b.c of the thickness of them.
The video is kinda boring, but you can see how fast they fans start to cool things down, and how quiet they are.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfrIsUGvSE8
(thats an infra-red thermometer im holding, and pointing at the temp probe)
-Patrick
The video is kinda boring, but you can see how fast they fans start to cool things down, and how quiet they are.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfrIsUGvSE8
(thats an infra-red thermometer im holding, and pointing at the temp probe)
-Patrick
Last edited by Patman; 03-30-2007 at 11:24 AM.
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Originally Posted by 1fast4.6
heya pat.. did you run a wire to your ac clutch compresser? so the fan kicks on when the ac clutch is engagged? if not when sittin still your ac might keep you from sweating.. might not
Just a thought guys, if im gonna dedicate a second fan for the AC, should i set it up a as a puller on the Condensor, or should i just put it on the radiator like i have this first one?
-Patrick
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#10
Originally Posted by MGDfan
Hi Pat;
I think you meant to say 'pusher' ...
I'd set it up the same as the first. I think the efficiency is a bit better when these things 'pull'.
Get some dielectric grease & some heatshrink on those spade connectors
Cheers
Bubba
I think you meant to say 'pusher' ...
I'd set it up the same as the first. I think the efficiency is a bit better when these things 'pull'.
Get some dielectric grease & some heatshrink on those spade connectors
Cheers
Bubba
And i bent the (female) spade terminals on all of those connectors to get them to stay in place for now.
#11
Originally Posted by Patman03SprCrw
No they are pullers if they are on the back side.. I meant mount the AC fan on the condensor as a puller instead of mounting it as a puller on the radiator. Since it comes on primarily when the AC is on, wouldnt the AC be more efficient if the fan is directly on the condensor? And would i have any negitave effects of the fan blowing air right at the front side of the radiator?
And i bent the (female) spade terminals on all of those connectors to get them to stay in place for now.
And i bent the (female) spade terminals on all of those connectors to get them to stay in place for now.
Didn't realize there was enough room to put a fan in there. I don't see a problem otherwise with your idea, except for access.
The other stuff was just for sealing/waterproofing the connections ... you soldered , not just crimped, the lugs on the wires, right?
#12
Originally Posted by MGDfan
Gotcha.
Didn't realize there was enough room to put a fan in there. I don't see a problem otherwise with your idea, except for access.
The other stuff was just for sealing/waterproofing the connections ... you soldered , not just crimped, the lugs on the wires, right?
Didn't realize there was enough room to put a fan in there. I don't see a problem otherwise with your idea, except for access.
The other stuff was just for sealing/waterproofing the connections ... you soldered , not just crimped, the lugs on the wires, right?
90% of them i soldered, started running out of time, but i will be adding more wires soon so i can have a dash light, and a dash switch, so ill go back and make sure everything is soldered
#13
Well i finally got around to finishing a wiring diagram write up. This is abosultely everything you would need to make a dual controller. The relay in green is optional if you want to have a master OFF switch. Its also recomended that you have a master ON switch just incase something fails, you have a back up plan.
also i need to look up and figure out if the AC compressor is + switched or - switched.... but the wiring would just be one wire swapped on that relay.
-Patrick
also i need to look up and figure out if the AC compressor is + switched or - switched.... but the wiring would just be one wire swapped on that relay.
-Patrick
#14
heres the fan light coming on, i was waiting at a light, it was about 85* out and very humid. You can hear the rpms drop slightly when the fan comes on initially, and then you can hear the fan in person, but cant really hear it in the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeucpZk6Qm4
and the light is in a temporary spot, its eventually going up in that hole (just under the cluster) once i do a little more wiring, and i paint that panel and the radio surround
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeucpZk6Qm4
and the light is in a temporary spot, its eventually going up in that hole (just under the cluster) once i do a little more wiring, and i paint that panel and the radio surround