Lincoln Blackwood & Mark LT

Differences Between Mark LT and F150

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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 10:08 PM
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oh, and just for the record on the top of my engine it says 5.4 liter 4v. thought that meant 4 valve, but maybe im wrong...dunno
 
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by marklt07
if anything would alter my buying decision between the two, it would be the overall appearance, which in itself is not that far apart. both trucks are beauty's. the iconic f150 is for your rugged truck guys that like to get em down and dirty all the way to the high class ranchers taking pride in the castano leather in tgheir king ranches. the mark lt is for thos'e of us looking to turn heads via all the chrome and glitter, and the "o.c.d.'s" like myself that take pride in the fact that for the extra money i paid for my truck over the f150, i may not have gotten a clean slate lincoln all its own ,but rather a satisfied step up with little bells and whistles such as "better quality leather", "real wood", (or so they say) and chrome lincoln stars among other few things exclusive to the mark lt.
Right there you nailed it. Extra bells and whitsles. Not saying it not a nice truck by any means, just wanted to debunk some of the stuff floating around here.

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not to be a smartass dude, but last time i checked, mercedes is not a fomoco vehicle, so they may print things on their window stickers that may not be on there, but i doubt ford is. stick with chrysler,man. lol just thought i'd "chime in" on that one.
Mercedes is FAR from the only vehicle I work on. My old man owns a Mercedes shop, so i work on the primarily, but after hours I open it up to the more off road type of crowd. I have even ****ed around with 2 different Mark Lt's.

Secondly, like I said in my previouse post, perhaps your IS real wood, but that IS NOT standard on Lincoln Mark LT's. Perhaps your SPECIFIC dealer put it on as "extra" to try and grab one or two more customers. Seemed to work pretty good, since you are pleased with it (rightfully so).

No, Tow package doesn't mean simply a hitch. Thats where the trick you. Its the gearing, its also the size of the trans cooler, which was my biggest complaint. Non tow package get a small dinky one, where tow package gets a much larger, much more useful one. So, FoMoCo simply lied on the paper. Plain and simple. (FoMOCo has little to do with each dealership. They represent FoMo, but each delaership is its own entity.

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oh, and just for the record on the top of my engine it says 5.4 liter 4v. thought that meant 4 valve, but maybe im wrong...dunno
Lets see some pictures.

What year ?

Blackwood was the last 5.4 4 valve equipped vehicle. Not a single Lincoln Mark LT was equipped with it. Thats a direct quote from some buddies across the street.... at a Ford/Lincoln dealership.


Lincoln introduced the InTech version of the 5.4 L modular engine in 1999. It features DOHC heads with 4 valves per cylinder.

This engine uses a cast iron engine block and aluminum cylinder heads. It is built in Romeo, Michigan at the Romeo #2 plant. It uses SFI fuel injection, has roller rockers, and features fracture-split forged powder metal connecting rods and an assembled reinforced plastic intake manifold.

Output is 300 hp (224 kW) at 5000 rpm with 355 ft.lbf (481 Nm) of torque at 2750 rpm.

Vehicles using the 4-valve Intech engine include:

1999-2004 Lincoln Navigator SUV
2002 Lincoln Blackwood pickup truck


Ford Triton engine - 3-valve
In 2004, Ford introduced a new 3-valve SOHC head, improving torque. This engine also includes continuously-variable intake valve timing, and first appeared in Australian Ford models [1]. The engine is built at Ford's Essex, Ontario plant. The engine is not generally referred to with either the InTech or Triton name.

It has an cast iron engine block and aluminum cylinder heads. It uses SFI fuel injection, has roller finger followers, and features fracture-split forged powder metal connecting rods. The intake manifold is assembled of reinforced plastic.

Output is 300 hp (224 kW) at 5000 RPM with 365 ft.lbf (495 Nm) of torque at 3750 RPM.

Vehicles using the 3-valve engine include:

2004-present Ford F-150
2005-present Ford Super Duty (250-550)
2005-present Lincoln Navigator
2006-present Lincoln Mark LT

There is a mod you can eprform, which you take the older 5.4 4valve heads, and mate it onto your 5.4 (3 valve) block.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 01:07 PM
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^^ I'm not trying to takes sides here - but I have to agree. I have all the ford workshop manuals for the F-150 and Mark LT. Not one of them mentions the 4V as an option for either truck.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 01:25 PM
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^^ I'm not trying to takes sides here - but I have to agree. I have all the ford workshop manuals for the F-150 and Mark LT. Not one of them mentions the 4V as an option for either truck.
Would be sweet though.

Talkin to the Ford guys, I found out the damn SVT Cobra came with a 5.4 4valve in it for a little while. Could you imagine that engine in a little Stang ? Would be sweet !
 
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 03:16 PM
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I think all the Ford Trucks look damn good. I was going to get a King Ranch or my Mark LT. I went with the Mark cause I love all that chrome. Its kinda like being the CEO Hill Rod.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 10:54 PM
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sorry bro, you were correct. it actually says 5.4 litre 3v. my bad,man.
 
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 10:38 AM
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Mine says 4v on it. But it's a Blackwood. Nice mill. It really likes to wind up.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by marklt07
not to be a smartass dude, but last time i checked, mercedes is not a fomoco vehicle, so they may print things on their window stickers that may not be on there, but i doubt ford is. stick with chrysler,man. lol just thought i'd "chime in" on that one.
Actually, i believe the dealer has the option of printing their own window stickers. Thus they can throw in extras to sucker you into paying more, whether it's dealer mark-up, all-weather mats, chrome rims, paint protection or whatever other gimmicks they come up with, and throw that onto the right side of the sticker on top of the MSRP of the car/truck.

I'm not saying they do, but i do know of a few local dealerships here who've done so. (for example: go check dealer mark up on a 2009 v8 dodge challenger)
 
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Old Dec 5, 2008 | 09:39 AM
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1 costs a hella lot more!
 
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Old Dec 6, 2008 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by mawk
Actually, i believe the dealer has the option of printing their own window stickers. Thus they can throw in extras to sucker you into paying more, whether it's dealer mark-up, all-weather mats, chrome rims, paint protection or whatever other gimmicks they come up with, and throw that onto the right side of the sticker on top of the MSRP of the car/truck.

I'm not saying they do, but i do know of a few local dealerships here who've done so. (for example: go check dealer mark up on a 2009 v8 dodge challenger)
No, you are incorrect about the MSRP, it has to come from the factory. What the dealers do is right next to it, they put their own. Some of those dealer add on stickers look really close to what the factory MSRP looks like.

A friend of mine who is another car/truck guy said the Lincoln Mark LT is a Ford F-150 in a tuxedo, I agree with him.

Has anyone purchased a new 2008 LT in the last few months? I would like to know what you paid for it less tax & license. What was the MSRP and what did you get it for? I am looking to purchase a new one.
 
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Old Dec 8, 2008 | 11:38 PM
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No, you are incorrect about the MSRP, it has to come from the factory. What the dealers do is right next to it, they put their own. Some of those dealer add on stickers look really close to what the factory MSRP looks like.
You're right. I checked yesterday and it look the exact same, except at the bottom it had fine print saying it was added on by the dealer. Fooled me.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by bar20
Has anyone purchased a new 2008 LT in the last few months? I would like to know what you paid for it less tax & license. What was the MSRP and what did you get it for? I am looking to purchase a new one.
There hasn't been any on my nearby dealer lots for at least 2 months now. If there's one close to you I would get it, it's gonna be a great price. $6500 off plus employee pricing! I thought I got a fair deal back on 6-18-08. They have to be giving them away by now if you can find one!
 
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 03:49 PM
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Got mine last month for $16 + off sticker.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2008 | 01:23 AM
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Got mine last month for $16 + off sticker.
Is yours a 4x4 and did you finance it through Ford? The best I am finding is about $14k off with Ford financing.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2008 | 10:00 AM
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$14K sounds about right as Lincoln's rebate was $8,500 last month verse $6,500 now
 
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