When will someone manufacture a really nice complete intake kit?
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When will someone manufacture a really nice complete intake kit?
All of the intake kits I have seen so far are not complete from the TB to the filter. The items have to be bought separately in order to form a whole intake piece. In addition many kits leave a lot to desire as far as looks and functionality (sucking in hot air, using the stock rubber inlet tube, still restrictive etc.). I won't mention any of the kits offered by the vendors in order not to start a war, but I will say that the BaBolt propipe (if and when it is available) seems like it will be the best piece as far as looks and , fit and finish, and overall construction. I bet if one of the vendors invested a little more time in R&D they could develop a much nicer and better performing CAI than the current units being offered.
And I'd also like a metal one chrome plated so it will hold in as much heat as possible! LOL ! J/K guys!
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From: Dacula, GA (just outside Atlanta).
I asked JLP if they could custom make me a complete, enclosed cold air intake system using lightweight aluminum construction. I also said that price was not a consideration. They said "not at this time". They also mentioned that they are currently selling all the units they can produce of the existing design.
Maybe if enough Lightning owners showed interest, they could put such a new, lightweight, cold air system together. How about it?
Rich B.
Maybe if enough Lightning owners showed interest, they could put such a new, lightweight, cold air system together. How about it?
Rich B.
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I'll take one, too, but it has to get all or the vast majority of it's air from OUTSIDE the engine compartment as far as I am concerned. JLs looks pretty close with the rubber seal (was it Vinnie?) put on his.
The second generation volant was supposed to be the final one...
It has a smooth tube from the filter to the TB which is what you are asking for, right?
It was supposed to be:
90mm maf (current model 80)
Larger filter box, completely sealed
larger intake neck going to the fender well
larger air filter element with an open ended filter
a "removable plate" somewhre on the box with an option to buy a ram-air type mount with a feed tube going into the box.
From discussions, it appears the only thing they did was make it fit the 90mm MAF and increase the neck size by 10mm... They require that you enlarge the fender well hole to make it flow enough. I don't know why the dropped the ball on this unit. I talked to their tech several times and he asked me a LOT of questions about what folks are looking for and he assured me all of the above features would be on it.
The problem is, they are designing it for a stock truck. It probably does flow better than stock a little bit, but for the heavily modded trucks in this forum at least, it won't suffice. Oh well...
http://www.volantperformance.com/Pro...9955/19955.htm
Nice try, but not even close.
The second generation volant was supposed to be the final one...
It has a smooth tube from the filter to the TB which is what you are asking for, right?
It was supposed to be:
90mm maf (current model 80)
Larger filter box, completely sealed
larger intake neck going to the fender well
larger air filter element with an open ended filter
a "removable plate" somewhre on the box with an option to buy a ram-air type mount with a feed tube going into the box.
From discussions, it appears the only thing they did was make it fit the 90mm MAF and increase the neck size by 10mm... They require that you enlarge the fender well hole to make it flow enough. I don't know why the dropped the ball on this unit. I talked to their tech several times and he asked me a LOT of questions about what folks are looking for and he assured me all of the above features would be on it.
The problem is, they are designing it for a stock truck. It probably does flow better than stock a little bit, but for the heavily modded trucks in this forum at least, it won't suffice. Oh well...
http://www.volantperformance.com/Pro...9955/19955.htm
Nice try, but not even close.
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Good thing to have nowdays, especially with all the higher flowing S/C's on the market (with even larger ones expected). Seems like a kit should be built so that one could grow into it rather than having to scrap it an buy another whenever you upgrade.
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From: Warner Robins, Ga, CSA
"functionality (sucking in hot air"
Maybe you haven't seen this info yet?
https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...ht=intake+temp
I have run a few quicker times--after hot-lapping with this kit.
Dan
Maybe you haven't seen this info yet?
https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...ht=intake+temp
I have run a few quicker times--after hot-lapping with this kit.
Dan
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Yeah, I saw it, but that box requires moving air to get down to ambient outside as mentioned in that post. I am sure it is a great product and well made, but no tuner anywhere is going to convince me that any amount of hot air from inside the engine is good for performance. I certainly may be wrong, but I do understand the physics involved in air density and last time I checked, colder is more dense.
At Houston Raceway Park, you have to wait in line on test and tune night. Truck can get quite hot under there while waiting in line... I realize it will be down to ambient once I am rolling, but that is too late. I want cold air from the instant I punch the throttle -- period.
The fact that you have to "get moving again to get it back down to ambient" clearly indicates some air from inside the compartment is entering.
The reason I mentioned JLs intake is that it appears to seal fairly well to the hood with a gasket is one were so inclined... The question is this: With the JL and a rubber gasket, would one be restricting the airflow into the intake? I dunno...
https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...ghlight=johnny
scroll down to the post by "the orphaner" That looks peachy to me.
Ken
At Houston Raceway Park, you have to wait in line on test and tune night. Truck can get quite hot under there while waiting in line... I realize it will be down to ambient once I am rolling, but that is too late. I want cold air from the instant I punch the throttle -- period.
The fact that you have to "get moving again to get it back down to ambient" clearly indicates some air from inside the compartment is entering.
The reason I mentioned JLs intake is that it appears to seal fairly well to the hood with a gasket is one were so inclined... The question is this: With the JL and a rubber gasket, would one be restricting the airflow into the intake? I dunno...
https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...ghlight=johnny
scroll down to the post by "the orphaner" That looks peachy to me.
Ken
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Ken,
I do not know if this would help but ,I think it is more of a complete process to keep the truck cool in the lanes.I am not an engineer but from my experience at the tracks it is possible to keep the motor cool right up to you get to the burnout box.Not easy but doable.
I to thought it was very difficult on test and tune nights to do it (E-town gets 250 cars)and had pretty much given up until I got spoiled.Let me explain.
We had the lightning shootout were you got to bring the truck right up to the lanes with no wait,Then at JDM day the next week it was the same and then I went one more time during the day with no wait. I made about 9 passses on 3 different days all at complete cool.My times were excellent and I got spoiled to say the least.
After that I swore that when I ran it would be under as optimal conditions as possible.
Yes, I know I am a JDM guy and some of the stuff I use I got from him but not everthing.
Remember I am at a disadvantage.With the shaker I cannot put a bag of ice on my intake at the track.So if I can run cool then it is definately possible.
First thing is I get the motor as cool as possible with the use of electric fan(can be any elec.fan),Powercooler (filled w/ ice)and heat exchanger fans.It take a good 45 minutes to an hour(at least) to have the blower cool to touch.I do use a generator (with a battery charger built in)so my battery does not go dead.
I then drain out the powercooler(ice is now water) and refill half way with ice again. I will drive into the lanes,shut the truck off immediately and turn the fans back on(my heat exchanger fans switch also turns on the intercooler pump) so I am always ciculating air and fluid .I leave my hood open and fans on.When the line moves I only start the truck when need be and (at least 5 spots) and shut it right off(keeping the fans on).I do this until I am about 8 cars from going.Then I shut the hood and the electric fan.I then move up very quickly continueing to shut the truck off.It does not have time to really build up a big amount of heat.I can usually get to the line with my guage on C.
I know this is not what you are looking for but you might want to look at a powercooler,heat exchanger fans and an electric fan.To me the constant circulation of fluids and air from outside the engine bay when the truck is not moving is what you are looking for.
VINNIE
I do not know if this would help but ,I think it is more of a complete process to keep the truck cool in the lanes.I am not an engineer but from my experience at the tracks it is possible to keep the motor cool right up to you get to the burnout box.Not easy but doable.
I to thought it was very difficult on test and tune nights to do it (E-town gets 250 cars)and had pretty much given up until I got spoiled.Let me explain.
We had the lightning shootout were you got to bring the truck right up to the lanes with no wait,Then at JDM day the next week it was the same and then I went one more time during the day with no wait. I made about 9 passses on 3 different days all at complete cool.My times were excellent and I got spoiled to say the least.
After that I swore that when I ran it would be under as optimal conditions as possible.
Yes, I know I am a JDM guy and some of the stuff I use I got from him but not everthing.
Remember I am at a disadvantage.With the shaker I cannot put a bag of ice on my intake at the track.So if I can run cool then it is definately possible.
First thing is I get the motor as cool as possible with the use of electric fan(can be any elec.fan),Powercooler (filled w/ ice)and heat exchanger fans.It take a good 45 minutes to an hour(at least) to have the blower cool to touch.I do use a generator (with a battery charger built in)so my battery does not go dead.
I then drain out the powercooler(ice is now water) and refill half way with ice again. I will drive into the lanes,shut the truck off immediately and turn the fans back on(my heat exchanger fans switch also turns on the intercooler pump) so I am always ciculating air and fluid .I leave my hood open and fans on.When the line moves I only start the truck when need be and (at least 5 spots) and shut it right off(keeping the fans on).I do this until I am about 8 cars from going.Then I shut the hood and the electric fan.I then move up very quickly continueing to shut the truck off.It does not have time to really build up a big amount of heat.I can usually get to the line with my guage on C.
I know this is not what you are looking for but you might want to look at a powercooler,heat exchanger fans and an electric fan.To me the constant circulation of fluids and air from outside the engine bay when the truck is not moving is what you are looking for.
VINNIE
Last edited by VINNIE; Dec 7, 2002 at 01:51 AM.