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Old Nov 4, 2002 | 10:21 AM
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You are correct Chris.

The sensor I was reffering to was the second IAT that I keep an eye on. The scan tool I use is from Mac tools with my own little custom Ford program
 
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Old Nov 4, 2002 | 10:36 AM
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This thing looks great. I am sure this baby would also increase engine longevity.

I don't think you can really DYNO this because the truck doesn't move on a dyno so the air isn't the same.

P.S. Please JDM don't rip us off - If you took economics...you might find you could MAKE profits by lowering prices (marginal utility)
 
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Old Nov 4, 2002 | 06:17 PM
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Will it be also available for the 03' Cobra?
 
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Old Nov 4, 2002 | 06:55 PM
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Dyno...

A dyno will be fine. Most good dyno shops have fans to blow air, so it should be a reasonable simulation of driving.

Coldie
 
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Old Nov 4, 2002 | 08:21 PM
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This is probably a silly question, but does this thing replace the stock intercooler or does it do something different?
i.e. run in concert with the stock unit?

Anybody going to answer this one for me, I'm still confused...

Oz
 
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Old Nov 4, 2002 | 08:23 PM
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Originally posted by OzFseries
i.e. run in concert with the stock unit?

Anybody going to answer this one for me, I'm still confused...

Oz
I would think it's a replacement for the stock fmic.
 
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Old Nov 4, 2002 | 09:09 PM
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the intercooler is untouched, what the kit does is replace the factory heat exchanger which is mounted behind the front bumper(that is where the hot water from the intercooler, the thing under the blower, is cooled by the outside air and re-circulated back to the intercooler) the purpose is to keep the fluid as close to ambient as possible so the air charge temperature stays as low as possible. the stock heat exchanger is pretty small, so this bigger aluminum unit has more surface area to cool the I/C fluid better. a bigger pump and resevoir would probably make it even better. somebody chime in here if im wrong.........
 
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Old Nov 4, 2002 | 11:39 PM
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What the @&^#!!!!!!!!!!
You will all have one befor its over so %^#$ it.
Get real!!!!!
 
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Old Nov 5, 2002 | 01:11 AM
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Re: Dyno...

Originally posted by Coldie
A dyno will be fine. Most good dyno shops have fans to blow air, so it should be a reasonable simulation of driving.

Coldie
Actually, as an attorney in a high-profile lawsuit involving the two top centrifugal SC manufacturers, I have been dealing with this issue in some detail for the past few weeks.

Although the law of decreasing marginal returns applies, and thus there is no magic number, it takes one hell of a lot more than a Home Depot fan to get a representative effect on a dyno. We are talking 50-60 MPH wind. I cannot quantify the difference, but this is the range that we are talking about.

But a shop fan sures beats nothing!
 
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Old Nov 5, 2002 | 01:20 AM
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Originally posted by wkuper11
the intercooler is untouched, what the kit does is replace the factory heat exchanger which is mounted behind the front bumper(that is where the hot water from the intercooler, the thing under the blower, is cooled by the outside air and re-circulated back to the intercooler) the purpose is to keep the fluid as close to ambient as possible so the air charge temperature stays as low as possible. the stock heat exchanger is pretty small, so this bigger aluminum unit has more surface area to cool the I/C fluid better. a bigger pump and resevoir would probably make it even better. somebody chime in here if im wrong.........
You are not really "wrong," but the Lightning's heat exhangers (both the core and the front exchanger) are relatively HUGE compared to other air-to-water intercoolers. That is why the stock setup works so well.

A larger pump can't hurt, but the payoff may be small. If the stock pump is supplying enough juice to deliver the heat to the metal up front, a bigger pump will have marginal gains. At some point, moving the water quicker has no effect, as the heat cannot be transferred to the metal any better. Once again, the stock setup is really well designed relative to other systems.

I'm sure we will see the data, but I suspect the difference between the stock exchanger and the new exchanger to be relatively small in terms of HP gains. Certainly on a $-per-HP basis, I would expect this to be one of the last mods--one for those who have done everything else. Of course, I would be delighted to be proved "wrong" on this. If so, I'll just have to whip out the plastic. Increased power AND increased reliability is a magic combination!
 
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Old Nov 5, 2002 | 03:21 AM
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Tim's right,
The IC fluid needs a certain amount of "residence time" to shed the heat. If you pump the fluid thru faster it might actually hurt cooling. The cooling fluid doesn't get hot enough to boil so moving the fluid superfast to scrub away the steam pockets isn't needed.

I see this mod ranked right up there with an electric water pump, wich is also somewhat expensive but is rumored to be worth a few HP, maybe 8 or 10, wich means I have to put it on my "to do" list. Dale
 
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