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Old Sep 13, 2002 | 12:16 AM
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I bought my '02 on A-plan for $27,700. No more, no less. When the dealership gets the vehicle in, it comes with pricing(A, X, Z) already figured with the vehicle. It DOESNOT take them 45min. to figure pricing, unless they are trying to screw with you. Took my dealer 2 minutes to go pull a peice of paper from a cabinet. Dealerships DO NOT have to honor A-plan on specialty vehicles! SVT's, Harley truck's, Thunderbird's, etc., but there are dealerships that will sell anything on there lot for A-plan. They do, however, have to honor A-plan on every single other vehicle.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2002 | 12:38 AM
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Sorry Grey03, but your info is a bit off. They dealer does not HAVE to plan you a car. It's their choice if they want to or not. Ford can't force a dealer to plan somebody a car. Once the car is ordered and delivered to the dealer, they own the car and can do whatever they want with it (well, their bank usually owns the car, but the point is Ford doesn't). They do have to honor a plan as it's stated if the choose to do, they can't "alter" a plan purchase price. And the dealer does NOT get paid by Ford the sticker price. Don't know where you got that one from. If that were the case, there would be no reason at all for a dealer to not plan somebody. As for the dealer exchange, that's fine and done often with normal cars, but for SVTs, it's not likely. Non-SVT dealers are not allowed to sell "new" SVT vehicles. If that were so, then you could buy an SVT car from any dealer. There are dealers that will sell a new SVT to a non-SVT dealer, but Ford seriously frowns on that. It can be done, but isn't supposed to be.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2002 | 01:35 AM
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My understanding of The Plan..be it A-X. I sif they do sell it on the plan..then they have to comply with Ford guidelines or face some type of Corporate retribution. I bought my 01 on X-Plan and they slipped in a charge for paperwork...later I found out they are not allowed to charge any extras like this. I called them and informed them of same and they Gladly reimbursed me the near $300.00 bucks. I did offer to contact Ford if they has a problem with this. It seemed to expedite the check...I picked it up the same day.
I get X-plan through the company I work for. Also I can use the GMAC plan that is similar. Call around you should be able to find some dealership that will do the deal. The same dealer had 5 of these marked up by 5 grand over MSRP the next week. I stopped to look at a new 350 Z yesterday and they had a 5 grand mark up on the two they had. Most SVT dealers will around here will add at least $1500. to sticker and justify it by saying they have to pay a feee to Ford to sell SVT. Before the PLan was availabkle to me I bought Two 99 Lightnings. I refused to pay the mark ups. I did have to pay MSRP. However I bought as soon as they came out. If I had waited I feel like I could have saved a couple grand...
Good Luck...I get 2 X-Plans a year....I feel Lucky.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2002 | 03:42 AM
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I just bought my 02 Lightning a week ago on the X-plan and it was $29,270. The A-plan price on the vehicle was $28,000. MSRP was $32,815 plus a $3,000 market adjustment. I'm happy with my deal.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2002 | 05:44 AM
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I paid sticker for my 01, in March of 01, and I feel lucky
 
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Old Sep 13, 2002 | 05:55 AM
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a plan

if it helps you figure out your price, I work at ford in wixom mi. and I am almost positive a-plan is three % below dealers cost. you should be able to call ford a-plan and find out what you want to know...
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Old Sep 13, 2002 | 08:09 AM
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$27,200 for my 2002 True Blue Lightning. on A-plan.

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Old Sep 13, 2002 | 08:46 AM
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Sal's hit most of it, but here it goes....

Dealers do NOT have to offer A-plan

If they do offer it, they must show the invoice, if requested

Prices should be the same, but a vehicle made 2 months later may be suffering from a cost increase and that is the extra cost...or they get vehicles delivered differently and that effects costs. Lots of variables.

Your dealer is required to complete a New Vehicle Purchase Plan/Red Carpet Lease Option Pricing Sheet to ensure you get the correct price.

Your brother should have the 800 number for A-plan hdqrts if you are in doubt.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2002 | 11:29 AM
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Sal is right on the money as usual!I work for a Top 50 Ford dlr,and they DO NOT have to accept employee purchase plans.
They do get compensated for A,Z,X,D plan purchases,but it's no where near a $4600 profit.
It varies by vehicle model but the credit for an "L" @ A,Z,D plans is about $1400.X-plan credit is about $900.
So when the smoke clears the dealer makes approx $200-$300 Plus any dlr pack and factory holdback.
That is why most of them have addendums or want to hold MSRP.At full sticker $4600 IS pretty accurate.Again ,it is very costly to become/maintain SVT authorized status.We will only see 12 or so "L"s a year and they are a hot commodity.Don't have ANY new ones and haven't for a couple of months.We do get a used one occasionally but,they also hold a premium pricetag.
If you look hard enough you will find a dlr willing to accept employee plans,but you may have to travel or have the "L" shipped to you.
From what i've seen almost all dlrs in the Detroit area will honor the plans [as most residents are eligible].The further west you go the worse your chances are.Out here they hold to sticker,i've heard the west coast dlrs get $3-$5 k over!
 
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Old Sep 13, 2002 | 02:52 PM
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I did some more research, and apparently the price increase holds true. Some trucks that were produced early for 2002 have a slightly lower cost than those built later in the year. The truck that I am picking up in 2.5 hours is a new 2002 than some of the others I had priced. Some other dealer I talked to had multiple trucks, each with a different price.

Either way, it's a deal and a half, so I will shut my mouth about it.

Oh yeah, it's silver!!!
 
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Old Sep 13, 2002 | 03:03 PM
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Originally posted by Grey03
They have to accept the A plan, no matter who they are and no matter what you want to buy. It is setup for employees and direct family of employees of Ford. The dealership gets reimbursed back up to sticker from Ford for the vehicle that you buy.

If you buy a Lightning for 27,900 under A plan, but the sticker is 32,500, the dealer still gets kicked back the other 4600 in one way or another.

They might be able to tell you that they dont accept this plan or that plan, but the fact is that they have to accept it.

If they are not a SVT dealer and you want a 03 Cobra, then they can, and will DX (dealer exchange) one for you from another dealer.

The A plan is setup for Ford employees and they take good care of you if you are, even down to getting you the absolute best APR on your loan.
G

I don't think there is a single thing in the above post that is actually true. Dealers do NOT have to accept a-plan on ANYTHING, ANYTIME, ANYWHERE. They do get money back from ford, but not up to sticker. There are NO special offers for Ford employees when it comes to APR rates. Ford credit does not offer special discounts to ford employees.
Dealer's, generally, couldn't give two *****s that you work for Ford or not. That is doubly true for dealers out here in detroit.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2002 | 03:37 PM
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Dealers don't have to plan a vehicle, but sales are down now. You WILL find a dealer who will plan one. If you can't, let me know and I know 2 or 3 in the NorthEast. There are 03 Cobra's sitting on the lots around here that aren't sold. They make more Lightning's than they can sell now. I bought my 01 in late 01 and the dealer had 3 on the lot, 2 lasted until they blew them out in 02. The Cobra's are the same way, they are supposed to make 11,000 a year...you'll find them sitting on the lots frequently by Christmas.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2002 | 04:03 PM
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Originally posted by 95 Saleen S351
I don't think there is a single thing in the above post that is actually true. Dealers do NOT have to accept a-plan on ANYTHING, ANYTIME, ANYWHERE. They do get money back from ford, but not up to sticker. There are NO special offers for Ford employees when it comes to APR rates. Ford credit does not offer special discounts to ford employees.
Dealer's, generally, couldn't give two *****s that you work for Ford or not. That is doubly true for dealers out here in detroit.


Just telling you what I know for a fact, not fiction or hearsay.

Dont just talk to your Ford dealer, talk to Ford themselves, then call Ford Credit and you will see that Employees with A plan pricing are supposed to get the lowest APR available at the time.

Oh yeah, I should know because I bought mine at a non Ford dealer for A plan and had it brought directly from the train to the dealer, plus my brother in law works at the dealership so I think he is telling me the truth, but hey, if you want to argue what you think is right, go right ahead. everyone's got one(opinion that is)
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Old Sep 13, 2002 | 05:04 PM
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Since I am a Ford employee I will handle this for 95 saleen. You do not get any special finance rates from ford credit period. What ever the apr is at the time, is what we get. I have bought many vehicles before my lightning (SVT) on a-plan and never recieved any rate different than the general pubic. As I said in my previous posts SVT dealers or regular dealers do not have to except a-plan prices.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2002 | 06:09 PM
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Thanks 2001. I too am "Personally close" to a ford employe.

Grey(03) What I said I known for a fact gray...sorry man but your post was very innacurate. It's not a matter of opinion, it is a matter of fact. You can call the Ford consumer help line if you have any doubts. I have the phone number on the back of my badge. Shoot me an email and I can send it to you.

BTW...How exactly did you buy a new lightning from a NON-FORD dealer on a-plan???


Wait...isn't grey spelled gray?

Peace out
 
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