Don,

I am glad Jim made you feel at ease and some of the others did as well. I for one will not be letting this go yet because "THE ONE" is trying to make it look like I made it up? Yeah thats my goal to make up a lie to hurt a friends feeling? How human is that? I see he posted and then removed it over on SVT, so I guess he has something to hide.

For the ones that didnt know. I had over a hour talk with Justin & Jim from JDM yesterday, nothing rude or bad was sad at all. The figured some things would be coming about from certain peoples lying mouth.

 

I couldn't believe how this went on and on. I saw Don's engine the weekend of my install...Jim was giddy as a schoolkid to show me the JDM logo imprinted on the manly rods. He takes pride in the engine work he does, and loves to show it... He's showed me 5 different engines that he's been working on while I was down there. We even went over the SHM 4V while the one-lap chaps where there.

Here's a shot of one part of the shop...theres what, 4 engines and an extra block?

 

Looks Like someone is taking Aim at me and has me right in the middle of the cross hairs.



HEHE

Have a good day everyone I am off tosome friends for the day, check you all out tonight.

 

I'd still love to get a ride on your boat someday Don.

Daniel

 

You are a clown my friend!!!!

 

Dan if you ever make it to Cape Cod let me know, the boat is there waiting for you

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Tallimeca

You are a clown my friend!!!!

Well some time you feel like a NUT sometimes you don't

 

Even if you do have the Manley rods, I can't believe you are sticking with any vendor who you even THINK might do that.

 

Hello Everyone,

The mere *thought* that anyone could possibly suspect JDM of not providing the Manley rods when that is what is agreed on is beyond disgusting. I've come to know him first as a competitor, then as a businessman, and finally as a friend, and for some time now, we've also been carrying his parts and will be doing more and more of that in the future.

I don't know of anyone who takes the pride in every aspect of what they do as JDM Engineering does (and no, that's not a "knock" on anyone, before that starts). For example, if they're installing something on your truck, their normal procedure is to have 2 if not 3 of their people looking over the installation, and you'll always hear them ask each other, "Are you happy with that?" or "could it be done any better, or neater?" in going over each and every installation. This has happened every single time I'm at their shop, on every vehicle I've ever seen them work on. Teamwork and pride, we should all have it in such droves as they do.

Heck, that's the primary reason we (and other shops & competitors of theirs) do business with JDM, they are motivated by doing things the best way they possibly can, that is their core standard, is that the best it can be done?

One thing you can count on, they're *never* going to tell you you're getting Manley rods but put stock rods in the motor, that just isn't ever going to happen.

Don, you have nothing to worry about but enjoying that new motor! I was at the shop the other day & saw the motors & rods too.

 

Don and Richard,

In my opinion you have both demonstrated that you are First Class Lightning Owners.

All of the Tuners have an enormous amount of Blood, Sweat, Time and Money in Building their Business and Reputation to make our trucks better. I don't think I witnessed Bashing, it was more like Character Assassination

and it is disgraceful

Jim

 

The key word is not "anyone", it's "EVERYONE". What is the story with JDM if half the people on here have a gripe with Jim? Why do so many people suspect shady things from this one guy?

history lesson needed here

 

The squeaky wheel is always the one to get noticed.

Every tuner/vendor has had a time where a couple people made a big stink about some piece of service or product they ordered that didn't arrive on time, come out, or help them win the lottery.

I've seen Spuerchips get hammered, then I've seen poor Sal get berated...then it moved along, and JDM had his turn going down the paddy-whack row for the hecklers to b*tch at.

Some people are just impolite, rude, or always carry an unrealistic set of expectations. There are people who place an order and expect to head downstairs, open the front door, and have the package there.

While I'm sure everyone has their tales about one or another, for the most part, the "hard core" group of Lightning vendors that have been around for some time (Mike Troyer, Sal, Jim, Johnny, Mark@LFP, Mark@LPP, etc) are all a great group of guys...especially if you TALK to them, which is what half the people who yell, scream and rant never do....

I've had dinner with Sal a few times, I've been to Jim's shop and have had work done... I'd trust either of these guys with ideas for my truck, they're honest guys and love the vehicles as much as we do.

Daniel

 

What we have experienced lately are a few vocal disgruntled members who in some cases have multiple screen names. Many of them appear to be from the Maryland area.
The BS level has risen to a new high since JDM announced they broke off their relationship with JJ’s SVT. JJ was banned from here some months ago.
The rest of the history lesson is available behind the search button.

JDM’s biggest issue is that they and their parts are too popular. Almost all the top “tuners” sell or did sell JDM parts. They have experienced some SERIOUS customer service issues recently. They have had a great deal of trouble answering all the phone calls and shipping all the orders in a timely manner.

Developing specialized high performance parts on a reasonable budget takes time. There have been examples like the "pulley" issue and the "exhaust" issue" that have reflected badly on JDM. Many times the issue is they develop a new part order 50 of them and sell those 50 in the first week. To get 50 more may take a month... In some cases the sales crew continued to take orders after the stock was gone. This resulted in customers waiting for a long time for orders.

Jim has asked me to help fix one of his issues next month.
You should have more visibility to parts availability when I am through.

I know they are working on a plan to fix the rest of the issues. While you are searching see if you can find many members complaining about the quality of the parts they received or the quality of the advice they received.

JDM is currently the only major “tuner” that is not a supporting vendor on F150 Online. That may change in the future. Because they are not a supporting vendor their customers fell they must defend some of the FUD ( fear, uncertainty and doubt ) that is raised by their competitors and then the threads degrade.

Before anyone raises the question – I am running parts from a couple tuners on my truck but the vast majority are from JDM. The reason I know so much about their issues is that Jim and I have gotten to know each other pretty well since we have both been to all the Fun Ford Events this year.

Doug

 

Come on now Doug, lets not oversell ourselves here. I have never sold any JDM parts except for the headers, and that's only because JDM has a contract with Kooks and I HAD to buy them through Jim, even though Kooks is around the corner from me. And JL never sold any JDM parts (to my knowledge) except for chips, when JL was first getting started.

We all work very had to develop and manufacture our own parts, and speaking for myself, I take pride in making sure my products are second to none.

With that said, I'll let everyone get back to the topic at hand, which doesn't involve me, so there's no need for me to comment.

 

Sal you kill me, you prove my point while claiming I am over selling... LOL

And When JJ was getting started he sold JDM parts, Mark at Lightning force has sold them as well. Thats not a bad thing... It is just a contributor to the issues. And it speaks to the popularity of the parts.

I didnt for a moment take a shot at any of the other tuners.. I just stated what I did to help explain why they are as busy as they are...

LOL

Doug

 

Doug, MY point is that YOUR point is a bit exaggerated. You're making it sound like the rest of the world sells JDM parts because of JDM. I'm saying there are other circumstances that surround that issue that have nothing to do with JDM. I know that one of your jobs here is to be JDMs eyes and ears and take care of JDM issues on this board (words from Jims mouth to my ears) so I understand your defensiveness. But other vendors dealings with JDM are not really your concern, even if JDM doesn't care if you know, the other vendors do. Besides, like everything, you only hear half the story from one source. Don't you find it odd that every vendor that's dealt with JDM so far has broken off that relationship for one reason or another?