let me know where you get them from= lakewoods?

 

Jason, I read the whole thread. What makes you think I did not?
I am just trying to point out that a 3/8 grade 8 bolt is not that strong, in fact we wear out 1/2 inch grade 8 hardware.

 

Why are the truck-tracks so damn expensive? What difference do they have between the Lakewoods that make of for the $180 difference? Are they gold coated or something?

 

StruckBy99

I have also broke grade 8 bolts before. These generally fail after the stress the are under weakens them. This goes with any bolt.
I dont think Jay was coming off to strong and I think your lakewoods are a good product also.

 

The actual tensile strength of a 3/8-24 grade 8 hex head cap screw is 13,200 lb min. The 120ksi-150ksi is decieving in that number is calculated per square inch. That strength is also a tensile which is a straight pull, shear strength is much lower. Also contributing to the strength of the joint is the nut. If the nut is not stronger than the bolt chances are the joint will fail. Proper torque has a huge factor in the joint strength as well. You could use a socket head cap screw (180ksi) and it would fail if not properly torqued. Not point to my post other than to point out there is more than meets the eye.

 

not a lightning... BUT

how would the lakewoods hold up to a 4050lb truck w/ 380lbs of torque?

 

Talleywacker,
Well if they will hold up on a Lightning, more torque and weight, I'm sure they will work fine for you too....JR

 

My Lakewoods came with 7/16 coarse grade eight hardware. I wouldn't use fine thread on anything that can move and cause a failure. Coarse thread bolts have more "bite" into the nut that it threads onto, (more surface area). I am putting over 400hp at the wheels and have not had a bit of trouble with any pieces of the hardware loosening up or breaking. Do you driveshaft flange bolts snap everytime you get on the throttle, No they don't. Those are only 8 or 10mm. I would be more concerned about the quality of the weld vs the hardware. You can usually tell when a bolt is weak but a poor weld can snap at any time. The lakewoods are supposed to be speciffic to the lightning. The one's for the f-150 2wd truck are not the correct ones, so i was told. Either one will do ann excellent job and in the end it comes down to one thing, $$$$$$$$.

 

LOL and no one is complaining about the $495 pricetag on a set of modified Rancho's

Seriously though, the difference in price is quite evident when you put the Lakewood bars next to the Truck-Traks.

I'm sure if you saw them in person you would agree that they are worth the money, and that Jay could not be making a ton of profit off of them with the quality of construction and hardware involved. Are they over-engineered? Sure

Everybody has their own pricepoint, and what may be expensive to some is cheap to others...you can't please everyone.

They're well worth the peace of mind to me, although others may be happy with the Lakewoods. Whatever you're comfortable with.

 

It's called mass production.

 

1100 miles on my Lakewoods so far.

Jdm chip, 4# pulley, flter E.T. streets = 1.74 60ft times(all day)

no loose bolts, bent brackets or any trouble of any kind.

Everyone seems to coment about the 3/8 gr8 bolts holding the Lakewoods together, but nothing about the 1/2 B7 u-bolts holding the Truck-tracs together. A 1/2 b7 u-bolt is just as seceptible to breakage as a 3/8 gr8 bolt.

Lakewood has been around for YEARS. I'm sure they know what they are doing.

Jason

 

I got a new set of slicks and truck-tracs and my 60' dropped from best of 1.83 to 1.68!!!!!!


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Black '01
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#3603 of 6381
424HP/528ft.lbs @ Normal Temp. w/o N2O
JL Logocaps w/Keychain
JL 3# Lower Pulley
Sean Hyland 2# Upper Pulley
JDM Cold Air
JDM Boost Bypass
JDM/Accufab Throttle Body
JDM Longtubes w/ Silver-Bullet cat-back
JDM Cobra R pump
JDM Eletric Fan
JDM 2” Drop Shackles
PSP 4-Way Autologic Chip ( Tow, Street,Track, N20 )
PSP FactoryTech Valvebody
PSP Deep Tranny Pan
PSP DriveShaftLoop
PSP Truck-Traks
PSP Nitrous Plate
Nitrous Express 50-150 Kit ( Can’t decide which jets to use )
NGK / TR6’s ( .040gap )
Hoosier DOT’s 28 x 10 x 16
NEXT:
Built Shortblock w/Ported Heads
Monster Box Tranny
JDM 166 Blower and 100mm MAF
AND DEFINITELY SOME BIGGER SLICKS

 

Silver-Bolt:

Comment on a 1/2-13 B7 threaded rod thats BENT into a u-bolt.

DB:

If a cheaper alternative (same style) to the Rancho bar was to come out, someone would tell you why the more expensive one must be better. You could count on it.

CHIKIN1:

Are the traction bars the only mod you've added and are you doing anything different when launching. If you weren't giving your all, and now you were, your quote wouldn't be all true.

Jason

 

Actually there is an alternative....LFP has them...cheaper too

 

Jason, not to start a war, but the u-bolts that I use are thread rolled from bar stock. They are then bent and cad plated.