Horrible Dyno #'s
Really stupid question here
If as some of you say, the only real mod is a chip, then why do some of the members here spend so much for basically nothing. I'm telling ya, it makes no sense.
I wish I had something to sell.
If as some of you say, the only real mod is a chip, then why do some of the members here spend so much for basically nothing. I'm telling ya, it makes no sense.
I wish I had something to sell.
mracer,
People are always going to spend alot of money on mods that they think or were told by some people that work,unless your on your 2nd L like i am and have tried and tested most mods available and have been taken the 1st time around it is a lot better the 2nd time around because you know what mods produce the best results for your money!Myself i just want to go fast and does not matter which vendor i use because i think all 3 vendors have superior products that they can offer us!
Matt
People are always going to spend alot of money on mods that they think or were told by some people that work,unless your on your 2nd L like i am and have tried and tested most mods available and have been taken the 1st time around it is a lot better the 2nd time around because you know what mods produce the best results for your money!Myself i just want to go fast and does not matter which vendor i use because i think all 3 vendors have superior products that they can offer us!
Matt
mracer- Good question. I guess that it is all for appearance!!! I was trying to model my truck after some of the other trucks on this board that are running in the mid-12's.
nminor - 510 tq Wow!!!! I reached 426 after all of my mods...... What a joke!!!!! What is a power coller?? I am having my PI torque converter installed tomorrow - How do you like yours??
jay- I am unable to have my chip tuned on the dyno since the shop I go to is only able to tune autologic chips. I purchased a superchip from JDM because they are able to compensate for 4.10's on the 2001, while autologic is not. I guess I could forget about the 4.10's and use my PSP 4-way!!!!
Dave
nminor - 510 tq Wow!!!! I reached 426 after all of my mods...... What a joke!!!!! What is a power coller?? I am having my PI torque converter installed tomorrow - How do you like yours??
jay- I am unable to have my chip tuned on the dyno since the shop I go to is only able to tune autologic chips. I purchased a superchip from JDM because they are able to compensate for 4.10's on the 2001, while autologic is not. I guess I could forget about the 4.10's and use my PSP 4-way!!!!
Dave
I don't think there is anything wrong with your truck. What kind of boost are you making? If it was low, I could see where your HP went.
The truck didn't get into overdrive did it? That will kill the Hp #'s too.
I think it's just a matter of getting the right fuel and timing for your other mods.
When Danny Swanson tuned my chip, he was able to take me from 360 RWHP with the standard tune to 377. We made 10 dyno runs to achieve that, but it is definitely worth it.
The truck didn't get into overdrive did it? That will kill the Hp #'s too.
I think it's just a matter of getting the right fuel and timing for your other mods.
When Danny Swanson tuned my chip, he was able to take me from 360 RWHP with the standard tune to 377. We made 10 dyno runs to achieve that, but it is definitely worth it.
I would think that one thing holding you back is the mileage. I don't have any place close that has a dyno, but I can tell you my truck has really come alive in the last 100 miles or so.
The only difference is the full bassani exhaust, which everyone says makes no power. I don't know, but mine screams now and before it would move but just not the same. Maybe I had some restricition in my exhaust that was not supposed to be there and the bassani has corrected that. I don't know and am just speculating.
I do know that my truck has 1300 miles on it and within the last 150 miles it has decided to come alive and has taken on a new personality. It doesn't spin a lot off the line, but when it hits second it breaks the tires loose and sometimes almost gets out of control.
The only other change I made at the same time as the exhaust and before it really woke up was my first oil change. I did it when I did the exhaust, which was at 1140 miles on the odo. I used valvoline 5-20 and the motorcraft filter. I know the oil change should not have made a difference, but I just wanted to throw out that info.
I guess your first thing is getting some more miles and then see, I would guess that by the time you hit 1500 she will be a different beast and with the mods you have done, it may be a little scarry on the street.
I wouldn't worry yet.
Paul
The only difference is the full bassani exhaust, which everyone says makes no power. I don't know, but mine screams now and before it would move but just not the same. Maybe I had some restricition in my exhaust that was not supposed to be there and the bassani has corrected that. I don't know and am just speculating.
I do know that my truck has 1300 miles on it and within the last 150 miles it has decided to come alive and has taken on a new personality. It doesn't spin a lot off the line, but when it hits second it breaks the tires loose and sometimes almost gets out of control.
The only other change I made at the same time as the exhaust and before it really woke up was my first oil change. I did it when I did the exhaust, which was at 1140 miles on the odo. I used valvoline 5-20 and the motorcraft filter. I know the oil change should not have made a difference, but I just wanted to throw out that info.
I guess your first thing is getting some more miles and then see, I would guess that by the time you hit 1500 she will be a different beast and with the mods you have done, it may be a little scarry on the street.
I wouldn't worry yet.
Paul
My truck was well broken in when I put the chip in it. It had 13,000 mi, and was making good power. On the 00's break-in didn't seem to make as much difference as it does on the 2001's.
Maybe the loose cylinder wall to piston clearance on the 99 and 00's (slap, slap) is the difference.
I now have almost 30,000 mi. and it's still going strong. fOnly one IC so far.
Maybe the loose cylinder wall to piston clearance on the 99 and 00's (slap, slap) is the difference.
I now have almost 30,000 mi. and it's still going strong. fOnly one IC so far.
DonC- Trust me as soon as you get JDM's nitrous program and your 75hp nos shot you won't ever complain about not enough power. On my G-tech with all the mods in my sig (except for the nitrous) I ran a best time of 13.23. With the 75hp NOS Dry system and JDM's nitrous program my ET dropped to 12.60 on F-1's on the street with major wheel spin. I haven't yet gotten a chance to actually use the nitrous at the track with my Et Streets but I feel sure I will get at least 12.30's. With your torque converter, 4.10 gears and lower pulley you will be in the 11's for sure!!
Z28KLR,
I had mine dyno'd in Feb. At that time it came in at 442 ft. lbs. It makes sense that you would make a little more torque with a little less HP.
Did you have the chip custom tuned. Those #'s are real close to mine before Danny tuned the chip.
I had mine dyno'd in Feb. At that time it came in at 442 ft. lbs. It makes sense that you would make a little more torque with a little less HP.
Did you have the chip custom tuned. Those #'s are real close to mine before Danny tuned the chip.
D_Coburn,
JL Powercoolers are good for about another 35lbs torque on the dyno. Check them out at http://www.johnnylightningperf.com
JL Powercoolers are good for about another 35lbs torque on the dyno. Check them out at http://www.johnnylightningperf.com
D_Coburn - definately get some more mileage on your truck before you judge. As time goes by and mileage racks up and the engine loosens up you will notice a power difference. My truck feels like I've done mods, but I haven't.
Not for nothing, look at everything individually then add it all up.
chip -n-filter - most of the HP gains
Throttle body - gives better throttle repsonse and I've read in alot of place that increase mph in the 1/4 by a few
Water pump - not sure never looked in them
Bassani headers / exhaust - improvement in looks and sounds, some say they got power increases, most didn't
Electric fan - takes some load of the engine, plus you can wire an electric fan to be turned on when the truck is off to help cool it down between runs
NGK Spark plugs - better spark = more efficient fuel burn
All this stuff may not seem worth it, but when you add it all up and the way it all works together thats where you get the increase performance. Remember 1/4 times and performance are not all dyno numbers.
Something is only as strong as it's weakest link.
Originally posted by mracer
Really stupid question here
If as some of you say, the only real mod is a chip, then why do some of the members here spend so much for basically nothing. I'm telling ya, it makes no sense.
Really stupid question here
If as some of you say, the only real mod is a chip, then why do some of the members here spend so much for basically nothing. I'm telling ya, it makes no sense.
chip -n-filter - most of the HP gains
Throttle body - gives better throttle repsonse and I've read in alot of place that increase mph in the 1/4 by a few
Water pump - not sure never looked in them
Bassani headers / exhaust - improvement in looks and sounds, some say they got power increases, most didn't
Electric fan - takes some load of the engine, plus you can wire an electric fan to be turned on when the truck is off to help cool it down between runs
NGK Spark plugs - better spark = more efficient fuel burn
All this stuff may not seem worth it, but when you add it all up and the way it all works together thats where you get the increase performance. Remember 1/4 times and performance are not all dyno numbers.
Something is only as strong as it's weakest link.
D,
I didn't know you had so few miles on the L. I haven't done anything to my truck yet, I have about 1200 miles on it. I have heard people on the boards say that the truck really picks up at about 3k miles. Should be see more hp and torque after you put a few more miles on it.
I didn't know you had so few miles on the L. I haven't done anything to my truck yet, I have about 1200 miles on it. I have heard people on the boards say that the truck really picks up at about 3k miles. Should be see more hp and torque after you put a few more miles on it.
Sorry about your disappointment. I may be wrong here but I believe you can expect even lower numbers after you torque convertor is installed. Is that correct Guys? Will the conver. show small amounts of slippage at upper rpm? If so, you will see lower numbers on the dyno.
Alvin
Alvin
I just want everyone to know how impressed I am with Jim at JDM. He actually called me regarding this post and offered to personally work with me to figure out what is wrong with my truck. According to Jim, a stock 01 with a JDM chip n' filter make @ 390 rwhp - which is what I thought. He gave me several suggestions as to what might be causing the problem and possible solutions (e.g. chip might not be making contact). I am amazed that he would actually go out of his way to personally give me a call.
I will keep everyone updated - and - I will re-dyno my truck after I install the line mod valve & torque converter to see how they affect the hp / torque.
Dave
I will keep everyone updated - and - I will re-dyno my truck after I install the line mod valve & torque converter to see how they affect the hp / torque.
Dave


