Regardless of whether that post you locked was out of line or not (and, yes, most of it was, and you made a PERFECT response that I agree with totally), street racing should NOT be tolerated.

I don't believe in limiting the first amendment, but this is far from that. These forums are being cluttered w/ these unlawful and EXTREMELY dangerous experiences, and it's just time to pull in the reigns.

Please, take this to heart and let's help someone else NOT become a victim of this immaturity. We will not be able to stop it, naturally, as it will go on for eternity, but you can save yourself the heartache/break of knowing that your board wasn't the helper in these idiotic contributions.

The Corral.net does not allow it, Corner-Carvers.com does not allow it, Stangnet.com does not allow it, and F150Online shouldn't either. Regardless of your decision I will continue to contribute to this site and its future.

Thanks Steven!

BfB

 

It's hard to disagree with this post.

 

A quick search of the sites listed above will find tens and tens of street racing posts. The only ones that are closed are the ones with the same fabricated pictures.

I wont try to speak for Steve however I do try to read as many of these posts as I can and if I see something like those pictures take the appropriate action. However keep in mind that ANY action taken or in this case lack of action gets somebody all worked up.

If you see something that you think is questionable in the future just drop me an email and we can nip it in the bud.

Thanks in advance
Doug

 

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The point is it depends on the when, where, traffic, and conditions. Also intelligence and experience help. Putting someone else in jepordy is, I agree, unacceptable, but that doesn't always have to happen.


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I'm with noelvm, he makes a good point.

 

BfB: Rest assured that First Amendment is not an issue here, as it protects only against government censorship.

I don't agree with street racing. I think it cannot be done safely. There will always be some unforseen danger. Just sit down and think up some variables: uneven road, fatigued component, unexpected road hazards, weather conditions, the other driver's skill level, your _own_ skill level, hidden driveway, etc. These, and many more, are variables because they are not set; they change in a way we cannot predict. Then think of what's at risk. You, your truck, the other guy, some innocent bystander, some cute furry woodland critter, and more. Guys, we can race at tracks. That's probably a more accurate reflection of our skills, and the performance potential of our trucks. Street racing may be thrilling, but I bet you that track racing is even more so. In my opinion, it's not thrills issue; it's the instant gratification issue.

And as the Vette driver found out, your life can be ruined completely even if you survive. The Vette driver was correctly charged with 2 manslaughters. The "fact" that the Lamborghini driver "accepted" the risk is a flawed argument. If you and I decided to rob a liquor store, and the clerk blows _you_ away, I can and will be charged with felony murder, for your death. This is because the government has an interest in preventing un-sanctioned deaths, even among criminals.

 

I realize that there are thousands of those posts on there, but the main point I'm getting at is that it's NOT allowed rules wise and this serves as a simple plan to help "curb" this extremely self-centered immature practice (it shouldn't qualify as a sport). This board represents 20 THOUSAND people, remember this #, it's HUGE, and helping to maintain some basic morals would do wonders for the community and for its safety.

If you silently ask for some martial law then you'll get a host to obey by it. I seriously doubt that if I write in asking for a dangerous street racing post to be locked that it will. It would take tens of tens of people to ask in order for it to be done.

I don't feel there is a time and a place for it, I don't think in those terms. I think in safety and how to keep others from destroying another's life as well as their own. Keep it at the track, keep it legal, and KEEP IT OFF THE STREETS!

BfB

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BfB, i agree with you to a certain extent, however people will street race and talk, talk, talk till their blue in the face.

Like i stated in a previous post, i have seen many accidents in street races and DO NOT street race any longer as a result. Those photos Djanimate displayed was really uncalled for and simply put distasteful to say the least.I'll be the first to admit....it's hard to get those images out of my head...i even thought it was a joke when i first reviewed the photos.

Their are tracks where i live but most are far or you pay tolls through the nose to get to them. The state should really get involved in letting people wanting to start a track actually permit them to do so without the years and years of waiting for approvals and garbadge. Recently, a track around here closed because some "rich" people wanted a golf course. Of course, the local board gave approval and now we have some old folks racing their golf carts to the next green!
I'm not saying having more tracks to race at would solve the problem but it sure would help to alleviate street racings disasterous potential. Even racing at the track has some risk but it's a safer environment without fear of taking out some innocent bystander crossing the local street.

Anthony

 

I admit it, I get in a street race every now and then. (you know how it is)

I keep most of the races at the beginning of highways. I know there are risks involved, I try to keep them at a minimum.

I wont say exactly what time I head out to race, but its far from traffic hour, and not in a neighborhood.

Certain people ask me to race, and I see how they act. Brian and I saw those kind of people while he was here, the kind that do burnouts in the parking lots, at every light, let them go at it.

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As long as their are high performance vehicles people will continue to street race. Their are 100x more people injured or killed in automobile accidents due to drunk drivers than street racers. I think that as long as you use everyday commmon sense their is nothing wrong with street racing. I have a habit of getting into a few on the
weekends but normally it's red light to red light so the speeds are normally kept below 80 or so mph which I feel is slow enough for me to keep my L under control. My 2cents!

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Thats because the race track brings in very few dollars and the golf course brings in many dollars. Very simple.
BfB I agree wholeheartedly. I used to street race ALOT, many years ago, and have seen some very bad accidents. One that did take an innocent life, not totally innocent, a passenger, I think you have control of the wheel and are responsible for your passengers. The Fire & Police Dept. responded very slowly to all calls that they knew were street racing accidents. BfB, I don't know your age, you don't sound as if you are as young as some of these guys and I AM NOT saying it's right (They should learn from someone who's been there), but like most some just need to learn on their own.
To those of you that do street race, if you do kill one of my family, I will tell you now that our Gov. has spent many $ on my training. I will find you, but no one else will.

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BfB,

Lighten up. If you've never broken the speed limit then keep casting those stones. Leave the policy making to the webmasters and the street racing to the cops.

You spin the wheel and you takes your chances.

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Redneck....youadmit you used to street race...if you killed someone from their family....would you want them to come after you?

I think threats at this point over you killing someone are pointless.

Just remember...you were young once, you street raced, and you were lucky.Some kid with a fast car is not going to listen to some "old guys" preach about whats right and wrong. All i can say is this, if you did it, who really gives you the right to stop them from doing it?

 

After two times on the track (road course running hot laps), and ONE deserted corner on a road where I got a little loose, I was convinced that there is NO WAY you can safely experience the true capabilities of any car on the street.


You're fooling yourself if you don't think the above is true.

Spike

 

Hankfan:

In agreement completely here. I did not buy my lightning to not race a few times. Alcohol and BAD DRIVERS are what kills people. All you people striking down street racing should start a bandwagon to actually teach Americans how to drive.

What I do not need, is someone else telling me what rights should be further controlled by the government because it's the latest cool thing to morally attack. Are some of you the same souls who went on a vengence against guns when schools were being shot up by students?

Shame on any of you who do not consider the ramifications for more laws limiting more of our freedoms. We can EDUCATE our citizens to be smarter and more responsible. When we LEGISLATE, we only help to create an autotronic society of mindless people. That is not the America I will let evolve. I am sorry, but what many of you are saying is scary. Read my post once again and think about FREEDOM. We must, at all costs, have the freedom to make bad choices.

I cannon beleive I am reading any of this on a Ford Lightning board. Shame shame on many of you for trying to give more power to our lawmakers. This is a classic "American" fix: Cheap, fast and easy. Don't mind the fact that our box gets a little smaller each time...