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Old Jun 5, 2001 | 02:51 PM
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Old Jun 5, 2001 | 02:58 PM
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Why is your max torque and its curve whited out?
 
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Old Jun 5, 2001 | 03:35 PM
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it's better represented on the trace data printout
 
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Old Jun 5, 2001 | 04:27 PM
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That is the most F*ck*d up dyno graph I have ever seen. The dyno guys are going to tear this one up..... Can't you get your L dynoed at a dynojet dynomometer?

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Old Jun 5, 2001 | 04:28 PM
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Those are nice numbers. I've never seen a Mustang printout before. After all that talk about running in 2nd or 3rd gear, I'd have to say it was run in 3rd gear to reach 108 mph on at least one run. Although I don't understand the max hp being at 99 mph on that one run because that's too fast for 2nd gear (had to be 3rd) and yet I would think max hp in 3rd should occur around 120 mph at 5,200 or so rpms. And I don't understand that 63 mph run either. If that's second, which it couldn't be 1st or 3rd on that run, max hp should happen around 80 mph or so. Hmmm, I can't figure this one out. Still nice numbers. Maybe you've got the "Spiro" 2001 model.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2001 | 04:47 PM
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I don't really understand the chart either and I will get it tested at a dyno jet as soon as I can get some time scheduled.
Firstly because that seems to be the most common means of dyno testing to compair and second because I'd like to see what correlation it has with a Mustang dynometer.
From what I've heard though, the numbers could be higher.

The chart levels off at around 380 and that's what I am starting to think is the true power.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2001 | 05:35 PM
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You know the operators are morons when they give you MPH along the x-axis instead of RPM's. Why would we want to see MPH instead of RPMs??? The graph just doesn't make any sense. The MPH that they do give doesn't correlate at all with the shift points or where peak HP should be occurring.
Why is there stuff whited out in the 1st two graphs? Is the curve that's whited out supposed to be the torque curve???
The 392 RWHP is a spike; I'd assume from a shift. On the graph that reads 378 RWHP @ 99 MPH, the graph is still on an incline when they stop the run (i.e. the truck should have more in it if you run it out more). These graphs are very bad quality IMO, and I would NOT waste your time going back to them.
I'm very anxious to see what kind of power you get from a Dynojet w/ a competent operator. FWIW, to keep my truck from kicking down, the dyno operator rolled into the throttle. I don't have any converter "flashes" in my run, and the run was recorded only in 3rd gear. If the operator has problems, just let him run it through 2nd and 3rd on the dyno, and then you can edit the graph to only look at the data for the 3rd gear run.

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Old Jun 5, 2001 | 05:58 PM
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You know, this was my first experience with any dyno's.
It was part of a customer dyno day which we got a group rate.

I deleted the torque curve on the first chart because it was confusing.
But they are shown on the"Trace Data Printouts"

The operator tested in drive from 50 mph to 100 and then quit.
I don't know why, and I questioned that too as I felt she had more in her.
But who am I toquestion someone while they are working?
 
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Old Jun 5, 2001 | 06:12 PM
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I have an appointment on Thursday at a dyno-jet.
So we will be able to put this to rest and compare the diff.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2001 | 07:26 PM
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Hey man, I don't want you to think that I'm trying to attack you or anything. I know it's hard to determine someone's tone or disposition through a keyboard, so I just wanted to let you know. You learn from everything you do.
I'm glad to hear that you have an appointment to dyno on a dynojet. You'll be a LOT more pleased with the HP and TQ graphs.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2001 | 10:35 PM
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What Trevor said.

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Old Jun 6, 2001 | 12:05 AM
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The graph is messed up bro. The HP curve almost looks normal but the tq curve is screwed... They got you at about 950 ft. lbs according to that last graph??? And since your TQ is messed up I can't see how they got an HP number from that? I think its TQ x RPM \ 5252?? Maybe not but still with that crazy TQ curve I dunno how he is getting any numbers? Derived on that it would be 972HP if that TQ was made at 5400 RPMS. There would be a way to get the RPM from tire height and rear end gear ratio. But I don't know the formula off hand. I can say it looks like he has the HP band right out of the 3. The short 50-100mph runs messed up the MPH. And why he didn't use RPM I don't know. I hope your truck is putting out those numbers and if it is thats great!! Just judging from that graph that guy owes you another run on his dyno for free!

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Old Jun 6, 2001 | 12:20 AM
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In late March, the Washington chapter of the f150 club rented the dyno ( a dynojet )down at Turbo Tech in tacoma. About 25 trucks and even a blown camaro showed up.
Herb Jacksons 99' with an 01' engine in it made 371 hp and 462 trq and I think the engine had a little over 60 miles on it. I'm sure his only mods at the time was a Pro-M 80mm MAF,K&N filter , a PSP street chip and a Bassani cat back exhaust. The rest of the truck was stock.

So if you are looking for 380hp from an engine that is reasonably broke in with a good chip and filter it sounds like your on target.
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Old Jun 6, 2001 | 01:29 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Bad as L:
Seattlesnake
In late March, the Washington chapter of the f150 club rented the dyno ( a dynojet )down at Turbo Tech in tacoma. About 25 trucks and even a blown camaro showed up.
Herb Jacksons 99' with an 01' engine in it made 371 hp and 462 trq and I think the engine had a little over 60 miles on it. I'm sure his only mods at the time was a Pro-M 80mm MAF,K&N filter , a PSP street chip and a Bassani cat back exhaust. The rest of the truck was stock.

So if you are looking for 380hp from an engine that is reasonably broke in with a good chip and filter it sounds like your on target.
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No way!

There are guys here with 2 years experience of tunning L's with every bolt on possible that aren't reaching 385 RWHP. On top of that you can probably achive 10-15 RWHP in fine tunning non-bolt ons HP that's unnoticable and unaccountable on every truck. Only those bastards with 2 years of knowledge know those tricks.

End of story, 01,'s make about 350 rwhp 365 with street chip. The rest is really really hard to come by.

Live with it or show us your tunning tricks because the guys with 2 years don't show too much as of today. Neither would I.

The 01's aren't any faster than the 99-00 with the same mods. But the 99-00 know the tricks so in fack they are a bit faster as of today.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2001 | 01:33 AM
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Dark Horse, I'm not sure what you are trying to say? 380rwhp is impossible with bolt ons?? I've seen it done with just a Pro-M maf, filter, bassani, and a custom burned chip from a mustang tuner. 380rwhp and 436 rwtq on a 99 L.
Or Johnny Lighntings 01 test truck that put out 380 with just the Diablo chip and nothing else. Maybe I misunderstood you.

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