I HAVE AN 8 SECOND BUICK GRAND NATIONAL AND IT USES A LIQUID ITERCOOLER SO I HAVE AN IDEA THAT SHOULD WORK TO COOLTHE INTERCOOLER DRAMATICALLY BUT DONT KNOW IF ANYONE HAS TRIED IT ALREADY WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS RUN 2 HOSE BACK TO THE BED OF THE TRUCK IN LINE WITH THE INTERCOOLER AND HOOK THE LINES TO AN ALUMINUM BOX THAT HAS 1/2 COPPER TUBING WRAPPED INSIDE.SO BEFORE ARUN AT THE TRACK YOU COULD FILL THE BOX WITH ICE AND INSTANTLY CHILL THE INTERCOOLER.REPLY IF YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS.

 

METCO-1,

This is exactly the setup being used by Johnny Lightning, SpiroSVT and HighRisk, and it seems to work fine.

It is hard to say what the performance results are, but theses are the three quickest Lightnings I have seen.

I'll try to get some pictures and add it to the FAQ.

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Regards,
Gordon

'99 Red Lightning
Johnny Lightning Superchip
Pro-M 80mm MAF
Century Tonneau

Injection is nice, but I'd rather be blown.

 

I've been wondering about my own heat exchanger idea. What I was wondering with mods like this are:

Can the intercooler pump handle pumping all that extra fluid; especially, if it has to pump it from the rear of the truck.

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I BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE ABLE TO. I WOULD ALSO PUT A BYPASS IN THE SYSTEM SO IT WOULD NOT BE PUMPING TO THE BACK ALL THE TIME.THEN I BELIEVE IT WILL BE OK.

 

Hey I have an aftercooled blower setup on my mustang ,i have a coleman cooler that i fill with ice in the hatch of my car ..2 12 volt bilge pumps cost bout 12$ each one to push and one to pull ice water thru the intercooler..i removed my heat exchanger as it was warming up my ice water at the trak. this setup made over 50hp more at the wheels versus water only ... this can easily work on our trucks..but i wouldnt take the heat exchanger off a street vehicle!! later..

Chris Hitchcok
99L 13.69@99.90
92GT 9.80@139.70

 

I also have thought of a heat exchanger, tube side in the supply line to the intercooler, and the return line of the A/C system from the evaporator coil to the compressor on the shell side of the exchanger. I am no A/C man, so I'm not sure how it would effect the A/C performance and pressures.

Tt

 

Cool Ideas! no pun intended.
I too have an auxiliary heat exchanger for my Lightning. I use a modified Moon Fuel Tank (14 gals.) with 25 feet of 3/4 copper tubing coiled inside. A 3.5 inch Moon quick release cap and 3/4 inlet and outlets with a 1 inch drain. Other tricks added too. I bought the pieces from Moon. You can talk to Chico, the prototype development guy there for details. I also have two two-way valves so that I can take the tank out of the loop.

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BABolt
SVT#290

 

All this is right on line; however, I have yet to see any of you with a water temp gauge installed on the intercooler so you know what you got or what your getting. I have a Auto Meter Phantom gauge coming tomorrow, electric. We are going to find, design, make a T fitting to go into the intercoooler hose. You have two to pick from. Either will work but give you a different set of parameters. I am going to put it in the line going to the intercooler, not the line going to the tank. This will tell me what the water temp is going in. By taking readings of just before 1st run and after each of several quick runs I will know what the fluid temp is doing. Then I will know how much I need to cool it down. Initally I have done some research today on fans that will mount behind the intercooler and suck air. The only fans that are the right size and are generally available are motorcycle fans which are 7" in diameter and 12 volt. New they can be very expensive (over 100 each) but used around 25-30 dollars. I am going to a big motor cycle salvage place in Houston tomorrow with a pocket 9 vt battary to test used fans and get two that have L brackets. I figure I can mount these on two pieces of aluminum angle and with some L brackets and a little bending I think they will mount to the under back side of the intercooler radiator without much problem.

As to jumping out the intercooler pump with a switch. why do I have to go to all the troulbe to go to the wiring harness which is under the battery and a real pain in the butt. The wires to the pump are easily accessable. If the negative supplies the power, why can't I just put a sigle pole double throw togle switch(left-relay, center-pump, right-ground) that will switch the pump from relay to ground but will not allow feed back to the relay?
noelvm

 

Great..now the secret is out There is a patened pending for the JohnnyL/Spiro Mondo"IGLOO COOLER" LOL
Just blame HIGHRISK he started it

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Spiro-TEAM PSP
BLK. #1476

Best run to date
12.753 @107.98
Best 60` 1.84
Best m.p.h. 107.98
@ 4700 lbs.
"Empty Pockets Racing"Drag Race Team NJ-DE
Spiro99SVT@aol.com
LAUNCH HARD

 

how about a larger intercooler radiator? would that help?

 

Sure a bigger intercooler would help. Can you fab one up for us that will fit in the existing space and brackets, and have hose connections in the same place and the same size as existing? No, an no one else has one like that either. This is the most difficult of all the solutions.
noelvm

 

oh no ! their starting to catch on.....what can we think of next...LOL! as far as the temps go when i had mt truck on the dyno we checked the air temps before and after the intercooler the air temp before was 93* after the intercooler at full boost was 155* then i added my magic frozen h2o to the cooler and the temp dropped from 155 to 95* so that should tell ya a little something about whether it works or not.....

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93 cobra 10.90@127.00
99 lightning (black)
e.t. 12.85 @ 105.1
best mph 105.4
60 ft. 1.85
superchiped
johnnylightning ram air
(man i luv this truck)
Cobra93474@aol.com

 

Hey Johnny,
We talked about this at the "SVT Experience"
To hell with a water to air intercooler just run a charge of compressed gas through the intercooler it will really be COLD. You could build a bypass where you turn off the water intercooler, run a quick charge of air through the intercooler to purge all water and then use compress gas to cool it. This is a drag race version only and you would have to tune your chip for this. Your Lightning would think it was running in the Artic. With a few solenoids the whole operation could be handled from within the cab.

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BABolt
SVT#290



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BA there goes my next secret....LOL!

 

Fuel Cooler http://www.witzenmann.de/03_prod/gb/3_4_42.htm That uses A/C as source.

Jegs sells 3 different coolcans fuel line coolers made to fill with ice, that at least one lightning owner tried using for intercooler.

http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/E xecMacro/search_dsp.d2w/report?prrfnbr=25299&prmenbr=76&path=76%202317%202 330&searchresult=yes
http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/Ex ecMacro/search_dsp.d2w/report?prrfnbr=6101&prmenbr=76&path=76%202317%2023 30&searchresult=yes

Doug

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