Mad,

In a post many weeks ago I posted a couple Time slips. 13.9 with an idiot behind the wheel, ****ty weather and 1000 miles on the truck wont interest you probably. I am fortunate enough to have a scanner. Many folks here are not as computer focused, as others and I just haven’t seen the need to go through the trouble to post slips.

You are fighting a losing battle. Everyone here is an enthusiast, who loves his or her truck for what it is, doesn’t worry about what it isn’t.

If you are looking to answer tough questions...
Why does Ford put the best ET's and performance they have seen in years in a Pickup?
Why are the 2000 Cobra's cancelled ?
They can make 375+ HP in the L engine how come they have so much trouble with the Cobra ?
Why will my truck kick the *** of 90% of the vehicles on the road ?
Why is the sky blue ?
Why did Nasdaq tank before my options were vested ?
Why don’t you think we could doctor time slips the same way you think we are making up performance numbers ?
If I can run a scanner, post to the Internet and link to it here I can turn a 13.8 to a 13.2 or even easier just scan a buddies Viper Run and claim it as mine.

Had to add my 1.5 cents.

Doug


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Got Silver 2000 Lightning 2/28/00!!
1st run 13.9 sec 1/4 !!
Doug
Carrollton TX
drbdkb@hotmail.com
Had 87 Turbo Coupe traded for
92 F150 XLT 302, Put K&N Filter, cat back and Chip on 92 Still not enough.

Silver 2000 Lightning, Valentine 1, Snuglid, Bedrug and K&N Filter. Have Sals Chip and Filter on order, cant wait.

 

I think it would be best to let this thread die.We are only feeding into this moron.He wanted timeslips,He got them.Let him go on his merry way.Steve is going to start getting pi$$ed off.All because of one loser who cant face the truth.This is my last post on this issue.I encourage the ret of you to do the same.This retard could watch a lightning run 13.2 and forget it 2 minutes later.Anything we say is just feeding into him....Im out of here.

 

Sorry, but I have to put my two cents in. First, MAD, you cannot come here and trash Ray (Lightningquick), that's my job. Besides, Ray can take care of himself, just keep jabbing, and you will find out......
Second, Ray may be a lot of things, but his times are right on, and I would never dispute his claims of elapsed times or anyone else's here either. You forget, we have all been sharing info on elapsed times for quite some time, and we all know what the vehicle is capable of. Third, before I sold my Lightning, I made many mid-thirteen second runs of which I can back up with time slips too. (As my signature shows, I also owned a 97 Cobra armed with a Vortech blower and many other mods allowing me to run times nearly as good as yours.) At any rate, you came here asking for information, and then disputed all comers. You must have realized by now that you can't win here, unless of course, 80 + posts have not pointed out to you that you, your sliderule, calculator and programs cannot dispute the slips produced by so many of the Lightning owners. Give up, besides if this string gets any longer, I'll have to set my alarm to wake me when my computer is finished downloading it all....

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Mark Swaim
1999 Lightning (sold)
1997 Cobra (deceased)
1998 Dodge Viper(yea, it's used, but it's still fast)
1993 Cadillac Allante (Sold, Finally..)

 

Mswaim..I did not trash anyone until I was trashed first. I did everything to prevent the testosterone slinging if you care to read ALL the posts. Mark, I am not out to win anything. Back to the origional post I made. I can't understand why a few folks on here run a half to a full second faster than anyone else with a Lightning. Seems to me they are either lieing about the mods or their times or both. My Cobra runs N2O with a total of $1,400.00 in mods but that is not what this thread is about. So far the discrepincies in Lightning times has been answered by "It's just an amazing truck", I just does so get the f*ck out here", "Your Cobra sucks", I can pull that Nova faster than it has ever been", "Torque X RPM/5252 means nothing when it comes to Lightnings", "Something about my heritage that I don't care to bring back up",
on and on and on--but NO-one has explained the un-believable ET's just a couple of folks here claim. Did Ford screw-up and add more boost or HP accidentally to a few trucks? I ain't falling for "Just because".

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97 Cobra, 11.90 @ 115--1.59 60 foot
65 Nova, 11.74 @ 123--2.10 60 foot (street tires)
57 Chevy 2dr.(original)
MADS` Hot Rods




[This message has been edited by Mad (edited 05-10-2000).]

 

if we want a clear answer, all we have to do is, compare this truck to the last 400hp 1/2ton factory truck with a blower. what was the name of that one, the syclops?, or the typhoid? no, they had turbos, one eye and health problems. so we have a first, i know lets crucify them, that way we don't have to deal with them. (history proven)

 

It was gonna be my last post but since mark jumped in,I thought of a few thing since I havnt heard from him in a while.
1.Thanks for at least sticking up for the Lightning.It does take an owner to know how these things are.

2.(most important) Lets clear things up.I see no reason to argue online.As you can see by this post of any,It is useless.

3.Lets both be adults(Ill try my hardest ) and what do ya say?Let bury the hatchet and try and get along.Ill forget any of our old past .Hopeflly you can do the same.

4.I hope your viper is treating you well.Personally I think for the money,It is as much of a steal as the lightning.

5.Peace mark

 

MRBBQMAN--Your preaching to an old Grand National racer here. I had two of them and one of them is now in the mid 9 sec. range and in the hands of another owner. I understand boost and I also understand N2O.
When I hear claims of a stock Grand National running 12's, I am the first Nay-sayer in line, but I hear that claim all the time and people will argue and fight to the death to back it up. Go figure?
Mad`.


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97 Cobra, 11.90 @ 115--1.59 60 foot
65 Nova, 11.74 @ 123--2.10 60 foot (street tires)
57 Chevy 2dr.(original)
MADS` Hot Rods




[This message has been edited by Mad (edited 05-10-2000).]

 

Wow! This is amazing. I did notice that the converson calculators did not really work with our trucks, but do not know why and I will not speculate on that. However the comment on some trucks being stronger than others is a fact, as was with other vehicles I haved owned in the past. Everybody knows it happens, and there are alot of differnt reasons for this but I an not going into that either. But when guys put there time slips and dyno number on the board and they dont match the calculator, I guess the calculator doesnt work with the trucks. Dont know why, but it just doesn't. I do know that there is not some kind conspiracy or something with us and or trucks. Facts dont lie, and time slips, dyno numbers, and scales are not Lightning biase. The end.

 

God Bless America! I quit.

 

Mad,
I had a scanner..the ex took it.Can I afford one?Damn right.But instead of the scanner,i decided on more mods.But ill get a scanner if you want me to,i do things just to spite people.Chip is goin in this weekend.Im goin to the track.Gonna post me a timeslip.

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99.5 Lightning(white)
Best 1/4 mile:13.89 @ 98.1 mph, 60':2.02
ARE LSII Tonneau w/wing
Alpine Stereo System(400 Watts)
clear turn lenses/clear tail lenses(on order)
Phantom Boost Guage
AirRaid Filter Kit
PSP Chip(arrived)
3.73 Gears(on order)
Belltech 2" Drop Shackles(on order)

 

Mad,

A couple of quick questions, please. Did you have to install a roll cage in your Cobra? How consistant are the 11.90's you're running?

I have seen a few Cobras that can run those kinds of times and been beaten by a couple, to boot. It really makes me sad when the Black Beast munches on Cobras from the last couple of model years.

The 96 & 97 Cobras seem to be the ones with the best kick in the pants, get down the track in a hurry capabilities. Are there any other years that can match thier power/speed?

I have resisted the temptation to jump into the timeslip argument, but here is my best run to date.



It was made early this year at Houston Raceway Park in about the best possible weather conditions you can imagine. I was running a 100 hp shot at the time.

In all candor, w/o the mods and the N2O, the Black Beast is one of the slower Gen. II Lightnings I have seen, and with my need for speed, I certainly couldn't leave well enough alone.

If you decide to doubt my veracity, that's your choice, I have witnesses and cannot abide a liar, trying my best to always be a forthright and honest man. Anyone who knows me will vouch for that.

The Wyldman



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Chuck 'Wyldman' Shelton
wyldman@houston.rr.com
Black 99.5 Lightning Build # 1273, DOB 5-14-99, NLOC #315
Best run to date 12.857 @103.48
CD Changer; Tow Pkg.; Lojack; G-Tech/Pro; SnugLid; BedRug; Invinca-Shield, full kit; Clear and smoke Lexan fog light covers; 3M Ti Window Tint; Bel radar detector (shouldn't be an accessory); PowerStack cone filter (a.k.a. supercharger waker upper); American Auto Designs ram air hood; Cal-Tracs traction bars; Bassani headers; Mickey Thompson ET Street race tires; Ford MotorSport 3.73 gears; Muth Signal Mirrors

 

Mad,

I will take for granted that with all of your racing experience you already know the answer to your question but if you really don't know the answer, I will give you a hint. The reason the Lightning is so fast with 320 or so RWHP is the same reason a car with a 400 hp nitrous or roots type supercharged engine will be much faster than one with a 400 hp naturaly aspirated engine. Even though they both make 400 peak hp.......how can that be?????? Hmmmmmmmm

Mike

 

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Wyldman--I believe your time. I stated in my very first post that I don't doubt a time from a truck with N2O. To answer your question, I run a 150 dry shot on the Cobra. The 11 sec time was all in the 1.59 60 foot. The rest of the run down the track was insignificant.
My goal for the last three years was to get an 11 sec. slip in the Cobra and then quit and concentrate on the Nova. I ran the 11 sec. slip and have since removed and sold the Moser axles, LCA's, slicks. I am finally going to enjoy the new Cobra I bought three years ago without having to worry about always wanting to go faster. The Cobra is not a race car and yes, I did get carried away with it and decided enough is enough. The NOS kit is still for sale. I'm not removing the clutch, Bassani, or the 4.30 gears because I threw all the stock junk away. BTW--I would like to thank A-Lightning for all his help at the track with the Cobra and the Nova.
I am currently waiting on a 9 inch Detroit locker to come in from Currie so I can ditch the street tires and try to achieve a 10 sec. slip in my street Nova. I am still wondering whether to try Drag Radials or the ET streets? I drive the car 30 miles one-way to the track and run in "Real Street".
Mad`(I still have all eight hyperpathetic pistons)Marvin



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97 Cobra, 11.90 @ 115--1.59 60 foot
65 Nova, 11.74 @ 123--2.10 60 foot (street tires)
57 Chevy 2dr.(original)
MADS` Hot Rods




[This message has been edited by Mad (edited 05-11-2000).]

 

Hey Chuck -

Since you seem to be the only one with some credibility on this thread (N2O must be powerful stuff), member, member..... member when I took this picture at HRP and like Nathan ran a 13.241, and like I was the slowest guy at 13.302, and like you broke the sound barrier at 12.857 and spanked that little green Dodge Dakota (with the crate motor) twice?


That was awesome.



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