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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 03:44 PM
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Clay Bar lube

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I got a nice gob of my Blue Clay Bar Magic left but ran out of the spray lube....

Seems like this always happens.... What is that stuff and is there anything around the house that I can mix or substiute for it?

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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 03:53 PM
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Dawn(dish soap) and water. This will strip your wax. Dawn works better than the supplied stuff.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 03:56 PM
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Any spray detailer will work as well.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 04:04 PM
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Plain water works fine! You don't necessarily want to strip the polish/wax off!
 
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Eds 01 Lightnin
Plain water works fine! You don't
necessarily want to strip the polish/wax off!
Yes, you do ... that is the point of clay barring.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 05:57 PM
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That Dawn is pretty harsh stuff, I don't even use it on the truck anymore. It will take the oil right out of my hands.

I'm carfull just using that in the kitchen sink LOL

The truck still has water bead up from the Meguiars NXT I use. I just can feel some stuff when I run my hands gently across the hood and roof. Those areas real build up with carbage.

Maybe I will just mix up some of the milder carwash soap and water and see how that does.......

The origanal lube bottle is still good. It never did soap or feel that slick but is sure works good whatever it is.

Thanks for the reply's. Any and all other opinions welcome too.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 06:03 PM
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That's not the way I use a clay bar! The clay bar is intended to remove contaminants from the clear coat and make it smooth....not to remove the wax! I would never use dish detergent on a paint finish!
I use the clay bar prior to a swirl remover, followed by a polish, and finally a coat of wax. I do the last 3 steps with a Porter Cable 7424! Works for me!
 
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Eds 01 Lightnin
I would never use dish detergent on a paint finish!
There are several authorities that may disagree with you. Zaino for one.

I have followed their instructions for 4 years and the truck is perfect.

The Dawn takes all wax off down to the clear coat. The Clay Bar then
gets the imperfections and pollution particles out of the Clear Coat, then
you rebuild the polish/wax from there.

YMMV though ...
 
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Old Apr 18, 2006 | 09:33 AM
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Yeah but some people do the 'in-between detail' clay barring where they do NOT want to remove the wax.
 
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Old Apr 18, 2006 | 10:09 AM
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and those people are not really clay barring, but rather wasting time.
 
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Old Apr 18, 2006 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Jakkle5
and those people are not really clay barring, but rather wasting time.
 
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Old Apr 18, 2006 | 10:45 AM
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I'll wait for the authority "SOAP" to comment.
 
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Old Apr 18, 2006 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Eds 01 Lightnin
That's not the way I use a clay bar! The clay bar is intended to remove contaminants from the clear coat and make it smooth....not to remove the wax! I would never use dish detergent on a paint finish!
I use the clay bar prior to a swirl remover, followed by a polish, and finally a coat of wax. I do the last 3 steps with a Porter Cable 7424! Works for me!
Let's see - you rub an abrasive plastic mass over your paint, followed by a machine-rubbed abrasive liquid, and then by a machine-rubbed mildly abrasive liquid.

So what makes you think that the 0.0001 thick layer of wax that you started with is still intact?
 
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Old Apr 18, 2006 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by l-menace
I'll wait for the authority "SOAP" to comment.
The Authority has just spoken!
 
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Old Apr 19, 2006 | 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Tim Skelton
Let's see - you rub an abrasive plastic mass over your paint, followed by a machine-rubbed abrasive liquid, and then by a machine-rubbed mildly abrasive liquid.

So what makes you think that the 0.0001 thick layer of wax that you started with is still intact?
I use the claybar to remove the things that stick to the paint that I can feel after I wash and dry it and then run a clean dry hand over it. Zaino says that their claybar will remove contanimants and may remove some of their product. I find this to be true. Their polishes do not contain any abrasives in them at all. They also say as a rule to not Dawn wash the paint except for the first time before using their product. Im trying to get lots of layers of Zaino Z-5 and Z-2 Pro on all my vehicles, and can definitely see and feel a difference after the last 6 coats I did. Its really shiny with just 1 coat but the more you use the better it gets. I use the claybar about 2 times a year and follow afterward with Z-6 spray, and Z-5 on the dark colors and Z-2 on the lighter. I just did the Lightning, poured out 1/2 oz of Z-5 with 3 drops of ZFX catylyst, and had more than enough to do 3 coats on the Lightning and 2 coats on the wheels, could have done another coat on the wheels, but I got tired. For a claybar spray, Zaino says to use a few drops of their carwash and water, but any Detail Spray works fine. The lube in Claymagic works good, but I prefer to use Meguiars Spray Detailer. Plain water is not slippery enough to me. A magazine tested all the waxes, polishes, etc., out there and found that Zaino lasted longest. Hope this helps. DanF
 
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