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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by lokosvt
Well I do have the money to do a whole built long block, but this is what I think. How much HP can it gain with lets say stage 2 heads and cams? 60-70 HP? For how much over $2000? Now a shot of juice of about 100hp will give me the gain of 100 hp maybe a lil more and for how much, around $1000 for a complete kit.
Bro your thoughts are exactly what mine were and your right in thinking you can acheive your goals, (I sure thought I could). AND YOU PROB WILL, as said many have made massive power and even ran 10's with stock heads cams springs. (BTW, turbo's dont count, hole differant ballgame)
And yes 60-70 HP is expected gains and what I expect by adding them now (after the motor was ruined).

I've been using n20 for my main power since the winter of 02 so believe me I'm on your side, all I'm saying is I tried that approach and it DIDN'T WORK
for me, blame it on certain yr L stock springs, too much boost, a improper tune, whatever, but it didn't work from day one, and it ended up costing me a motor now.

I wish you all the luck in the world and pray you have more than I did.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob_02Lightning
Number one, PSP was the one WHO COULDNT MAKE IT WORK, NOT ME
AND I have never claimed to be an expert and I'm not, I just tell it like it is and DONT sweep schitt under the rug like the rest of you.
and name one problem I ever had that I couldn't explain ?????
AMOF there's not ONE PROBLEM this nightmare of mine has had that CANT directly point to the factory heads cams springs....
Yes people have gone to amazing ET's and power levels before with it,
(I was on my way to a 10.9 - 11.1 when mine let loose) but I bet there's not a person on this board (other than you I guess) that would recommend building a hi power n20 motor TODAY using the stock heads cams springs.
Rob you da man when it comes to stock, heads,cams,and springs.. sorry pal i had to...couldnt resist.. WAVEBLASTER, dont come take shots at Rob, i still consider him my PSP brother, mess with him and you mess with me . got it? Rob i got your back cuz..
 
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 01:30 PM
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oh yea im running a stock bottom end, stock heads, with StageII Crowers and other bolt ons including an APTEN ported blower making 500hp/600tq... good luck to you and your build..
 
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 01:53 PM
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Well I just talked to Dante he will be building me a built longblock.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by lokosvt
Well I just talked to Dante he will be building me a built longblock.
I was very happy with mine.

Jody
 
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 02:11 PM
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What combo did you use to get 621 hp, stock exhaust, injector size, cams, boost?
 
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 02:26 PM
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For what its worth.........

On a stock longblock
Kooks longtubes, hi flows and a Bassani
electric fan kit
6# lower
1# upper
stock Eaton..........I made 440rwhp

Stepped up to the Apten port job and increased to 488rwhp
With a retune that setup was good for an 11.90 timeslip

Made the move to the MagnumPowers blower and went to 504rwhp
My torque convertor decided it was time to die, and I was able to only get an 11.8 out of it.
When the new PI convertor went in, I decided it was time to put a built motor in before my luck ran out.

As has been said, it's all in the tune
Good Luck in which ever way you go
 
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by lokosvt
What combo did you use to get 621 hp, stock exhaust, injector size, cams, boost?
KB, 19.5 psi, LT's and cats, 60# injectors, Dante designed Stage II Crower cams.

Jody
 
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 04:08 PM
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And I am very happy with it as well being the new owner

Originally Posted by camcojb
I was very happy with mine.

Jody
 
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob_02Lightning
Number one, PSP was the one WHO COULDNT MAKE IT WORK, NOT ME
AND I have never claimed to be an expert and I'm not, I just tell it like it is and DONT sweep schitt under the rug like the rest of you.
and name one problem I ever had that I couldn't explain ?????
AMOF there's not ONE PROBLEM this nightmare of mine has had that CANT directly point to the factory heads cams springs....
Yes people have gone to amazing ET's and power levels before with it,
(I was on my way to a 10.9 - 11.1 when mine let loose) but I bet there's not a person on this board (other than you I guess) that would recommend building a hi power n20 motor TODAY using the stock heads cams springs.

Every single time you had a problem you threw out every possible explanation in the world, but when it came down to it it was because you were trying to force 22-25lbs of boost and a 150 shot through stock springs and heads.

HE SAID AAAAAAAAAA shot, not a 150 shot. You don't need to try to discourage everyone on this board from going a certain route because it didn't work for you.

And to whomever said about the SRT forum, yes I would drive to texas because someone got their feelings hurt because I said their trucks don't run for ****. I stopped posting because I got IP banned and spoofing my IP just isn't fun anymore. As for a honda, bring your Truck to MD and I'll line you up with plenty of them that will whip your a$$. Or you can line up with my new ride. Being built the 28th, will be ready for you by spring.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Skank Dog
Waveblaster-Whats up your a$$ again. You come on here and slam a well known and respected member of the boards just because he was giving his opinion as asked. You should have just done the same and kept your personal views out of it.
I didn't realize that smoking a ****load of weed and using bold letters and !#@$#@!%$!%#$ made you highly respected around here. Let's face it, Rob hasn't done anything but run an 11.8 and vendor hop twice. WOOOHOOOOO.

WTF are you idolizing? If you wanna be impressed be impressed by people like Suavy, and Frank, or BTJ, and JJ who went a number on low boost not a guy who talks more about smoking weed than he does racing his truck.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 08:15 PM
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WOO HOO!! Let me roll a big one and have some fun

First off wise *** I have been running in the 11's for 3 seasons now,
and I didnt Vendor hop, as I continue to say (here comes the bold)
NO ONE owns me, nor ever will.
I have had 5 tuners tune me through the years, (NOT TWO), and my parts come from at least 20 diff vendors. I buy from who "I" want to and I get tuned from who "I" decide is best for my current situation.

I am not idolized nor do I ever want to be, but I have done more for this community than you will in your lifetime so I wont even waste my time with the "Rob hasnt done anything" remark

I was running 12's on F-1's weeks after I bought my truck, 11's by the first spring with a mere 75 shot, 1.5 60ft's on the stock convertor and so much more. AMOF there wasn't "1" wrong decision "I" made on my L "before" the new motor. Every entire mod, every change "I" made was for the better.
It was "after the new motor" that it was never the same, AND I DIDNT BUILD IT, so stop blaming "ME". It was fk'd up from the day it first started, til the day it blew up, YOU DO THE MATH.

Oh wait let me get in a &*@$^%(&@$%(@&$^%@($&%@$(@

 
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob_02Lightning
WOO HOO!! Let me roll a big one and have some fun

First off wise *** I have been running in the 11's for 3 seasons now,
and I didnt Vendor hop, as I continue to say (here comes the bold)
NO ONE owns me, nor ever will.
I have had 5 tuners tune me through the years, (NOT TWO), and my parts come from at least 20 diff vendors. I buy from who "I" want to and I get tuned from who "I" decide is best for my current situation.

I am not idolized nor do I ever want to be, but I have done more for this community than you will in your lifetime so I wont even waste my time with the "Rob hasnt done anything" remark

I was running 12's on F-1's weeks after I bought my truck, 11's by the first spring with a mere 75 shot, 1.5 60ft's on the stock convertor and so much more. AMOF there wasn't "1" wrong decision "I" made on my L "before" the new motor. Every entire mod, every change "I" made was for the better.
It was "after the new motor" that it was never the same, AND I DIDNT BUILD IT, so stop blaming "ME". It was fk'd up from the day it first started, til the day it blew up, YOU DO THE MATH.

Oh wait let me get in a &*@$^%(&@$%(@&$^%@($&%@$(@

Pass the buck like you pass the blunt burnout.


11s with a mere 75 shot and a 6lb lower pulley, LMFAO. WOOOOOOOW. Gimme a break, all you do is clog this board with bull****. 12's on street tires HOLY ****!!!! I don't think ANYONE else has done that. Oh wait, wasn't your truck an 01 or 02? Yea, so definately not a pioneer there champ. Keep patting yourself on the back telling yourself that going further in debt to go further in the 11s is smart. Sell your truck and smoke another one cheech.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 10:21 PM
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Dyno Numbers are Mis-Leading

Last time I dynoed @ JDM, I was down 20 HP and 30TQ, yet today we ran over a half tenth quicker and one mph faster.

Go figure???

FF


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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 11:08 PM
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hey iam not taking sides here.but last year at carlsbad(before they closed)i ran 11.9 @ 114 with a 4l.b. pulley and a 75 shot.and also made a pass on my street tires and after a working on the launch i ran a 12.2.so its definetly possible.(12.9 without nitrous on street tires)
 

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