SCT - Beware of the XC2 and the truth
SCT - Beware of the XC2 and the truth
Based on current happenings. I would NOT purchase anything from SCT again. Regardless of who tunes it.
I was just advised by a SCT dealer that they could not read my posts on the SCT forum. That seemed odd as I could read my posts there. Well, I cleared my cookies and relogged into the site. Low and behold.... no viewable posts from Rustysocket.
Seem the powers that be at SCT got sick of me posting the truth about the lack of updates, the lack of support, the defective products, their falsly advertised product..... and so on. So instead of banning me and telling me about it. They simply made it so the rest of the people who are as frustrated can't read the posts..... Pretty Chiken***** way to do business in my book.
I now have no choice but to take this crap. Fortunately I have a good tune... but the box still doesn't work as advertised.
Don't let yourselves get in the same situation I am in.
I was just advised by a SCT dealer that they could not read my posts on the SCT forum. That seemed odd as I could read my posts there. Well, I cleared my cookies and relogged into the site. Low and behold.... no viewable posts from Rustysocket.
Seem the powers that be at SCT got sick of me posting the truth about the lack of updates, the lack of support, the defective products, their falsly advertised product..... and so on. So instead of banning me and telling me about it. They simply made it so the rest of the people who are as frustrated can't read the posts..... Pretty Chiken***** way to do business in my book.
I now have no choice but to take this crap. Fortunately I have a good tune... but the box still doesn't work as advertised.
Don't let yourselves get in the same situation I am in.
Pulled your screen name up on the SCT forum and it indicated that you have 33 posts. Clicked find all posts and no posts found. Yep they have deleted all of your posts. UNFRIGGINBELIEVABLE!
Well I feel your pain. I sent my Xcal 2 unit back to where I bought it and told em to keep it until it can do everything that SCT advertised it could do with the exception of stand alone data logging.
In my case I'm not sure if it's the tuner, SCT or a combo of both. I have read that there are guys that have an Xcal 2 that is fully functional with the exception of stand alone data logging. Whether that's true or not I don't know. I will be calling around to see if I can find one that is and if I do, I'm buying it and I have found myself a new tuner.
I know it's frustrating as hell but keep your head up Rusty it will all work out.
Well I feel your pain. I sent my Xcal 2 unit back to where I bought it and told em to keep it until it can do everything that SCT advertised it could do with the exception of stand alone data logging.
In my case I'm not sure if it's the tuner, SCT or a combo of both. I have read that there are guys that have an Xcal 2 that is fully functional with the exception of stand alone data logging. Whether that's true or not I don't know. I will be calling around to see if I can find one that is and if I do, I'm buying it and I have found myself a new tuner.
I know it's frustrating as hell but keep your head up Rusty it will all work out.
Last edited by Txoutlaw; Oct 8, 2005 at 11:53 AM.
Originally Posted by Chi3f
i can do everything but stand alone datalog with my xcal2. Your tuner needs to update your xcal2 that's all. Then you can make the changes to your tune without a laptop.
Rusty
Brian from SCT has come on here and answered questions in the last thread on this subject you particpated in, and Im sure they did the same on thier own site. ( They likley used a feature of the software that places you on a universal ignore list. )
Here is his quote from that thread. What more could you posibly want from a vendor ?
Since MY SCT Xcal does all the stuff except stand alone data logging as does Chi3f's and hundreds of others. The assumption has to be made that YOUR tuner is not providing you with what you asked for. Its clearly not an SCT issue. The feature set is there - its working for many customers.
Its becoming clear that your goal here is to run down SCT with no regard to the facts of the case. Its a good example of why we implemented the dead horse rule some time ago. Please read that thread carefully.
SCT is NOT a vendor here and we have no preference either way.
Doug
Brian from SCT has come on here and answered questions in the last thread on this subject you particpated in, and Im sure they did the same on thier own site. ( They likley used a feature of the software that places you on a universal ignore list. )
Here is his quote from that thread. What more could you posibly want from a vendor ?
I am here to clear this up. I am not sure what else you want me to do. I have already aplogized for any confusion and made changes to the advertising to make it more clear. The thread I posted a link to explains about the advertising. We have one of the options available now that people are looking for (user adjustability), and standalone data logging is just around the corner.
If someone owns one and cannot wait for their dealer to help them get updates, I posted my email address above and offered to personally help anyone.
If someone owns one and cannot wait for their dealer to help them get updates, I posted my email address above and offered to personally help anyone.
Its becoming clear that your goal here is to run down SCT with no regard to the facts of the case. Its a good example of why we implemented the dead horse rule some time ago. Please read that thread carefully.
SCT is NOT a vendor here and we have no preference either way.
Doug
Funny, I have no problems with SCT or my X2... I datalog all the time and I can make changes without a laptop... Sorry, SCT is the best tuning platform and I will be staying with them.
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Originally Posted by 35thPony
Funny, I have no problems with SCT or my X2... I datalog all the time and I can make changes without a laptop... Sorry, SCT is the best tuning platform and I will be staying with them.
My biggest complaint with SCT is that they released the Xcal 1 at all. It was a stop gap measure that gave us some of the features we wanted (such as multiple tunes). The upgrade amount offered was a slap in the face to Xcal 1 owners.
Originally Posted by Txoutlaw
Pulled your screen name up on the SCT forum and it indicated that you have 33 posts. Clicked find all posts and no posts found. Yep they have deleted all of your posts. UNFRIGGINBELIEVABLE!
Originally Posted by Silver_2000_;)!
Rusty
Brian from SCT has come on here and answered questions in the last thread on this subject you particpated in, and Im sure they did the same on thier own site. ( They likley used a feature of the software that places you on a universal ignore list. )
Here is his quote from that thread. What more could you posibly want from a vendor ?
Since MY SCT Xcal does all the stuff except stand alone data logging as does Chi3f's and hundreds of others. The assumption has to be made that YOUR tuner is not providing you with what you asked for. Its clearly not an SCT issue. The feature set is there - its working for many customers.
Its becoming clear that your goal here is to run down SCT with no regard to the facts of the case. Its a good example of why we implemented the dead horse rule some time ago. Please read that thread carefully.
SCT is NOT a vendor here and we have no preference either way.
Doug
Brian from SCT has come on here and answered questions in the last thread on this subject you particpated in, and Im sure they did the same on thier own site. ( They likley used a feature of the software that places you on a universal ignore list. )
Here is his quote from that thread. What more could you posibly want from a vendor ?
Since MY SCT Xcal does all the stuff except stand alone data logging as does Chi3f's and hundreds of others. The assumption has to be made that YOUR tuner is not providing you with what you asked for. Its clearly not an SCT issue. The feature set is there - its working for many customers.
Its becoming clear that your goal here is to run down SCT with no regard to the facts of the case. Its a good example of why we implemented the dead horse rule some time ago. Please read that thread carefully.
SCT is NOT a vendor here and we have no preference either way.
Doug
I am not here to cause a problem with you. The facts are that I purchased a unit that was supposed to have onboard datalogging. Brian promised that would be available in august. It was not delivered as promised. The unit does nothing more than the XC1 I purchased not 2-months earlier.
Respectfully, those are the facts.
This will be my last post on the matter here. I just feel I was left out to dry and others in the community should be aware of the truth.
They are now selectively deleting posts in order to hide the truth about what has gone on. Does that seem ethical? Wouldn't you want to know what you were getting into? It has cost me about 900$ to find these things out. I'm just looking for some
here.
Last edited by RustySocket; Oct 8, 2005 at 05:02 PM.
Originally Posted by Tical84
I noticed Mike T. is a memeber on that site and wanted to see what he had to say so I did a search and it said he had 75 posts but only came up with 3. I wonder what he had said that made them remove the other 72 posts...
Originally Posted by raider
the other posts would be in a section for dealers only and thats why u cant view them...its like that for Sal and others also
Originally Posted by RustySocket
Doug,
I am not here to cause a problem with you. The facts are that I purchased a unit that was supposed to have onboard datalogging. Brian promised that would be available in august. It was not delivered as promised. The unit does nothing more than the XC1 I purchased not 2-months earlier.
Respectfully, those are the facts.SNIP
I am not here to cause a problem with you. The facts are that I purchased a unit that was supposed to have onboard datalogging. Brian promised that would be available in august. It was not delivered as promised. The unit does nothing more than the XC1 I purchased not 2-months earlier.
Respectfully, those are the facts.SNIP
BUT if your Xcal 2 doesnt do the stuff that mine does its NOT SCT's fault. Its either yours or your tuners.
There is no issue here between us - Im simply trying to mnake sure others that read this understand that there is MORE to the story than you are letting on. It may be true that your Tuner sold you something that you believed had more capability than it did at that time. And those beliefs may have been based on SCT advertising. But thats water under the bridge.
Now the product does what it says it does. AND you didnt but the Xcal from SCT - they dont sell direct. You bought it from a tuner or vendor - your beef is with them. I use a tuner I trust because I expect him to test the equipment BEFORE he sells it to me - so that we BOTH know exactly what it will do and what it wont.
My bet is your tuner didnt pay for the SCT updgrade to get the extra features and thats why you dont have them. Once - again - like a broken record - your issue is with the tuner.
Doug


