Got my recall Monday. Ford wants me to bring my truck to a dealer so they can disconnect the cruise switch. Then bring it back in November when they get the recall parts in stock.

I already disconnected the switch before the recall. And, I couple of weeks ago I was at a Ford dealer that said they had the recall fused harness I could buy for ~$20. Why can't they just install that harness.

Two trips to the dealer for a simple plug-in.

 

I didn't wait for the recall. A few weeks ago when it was announced that all 2001 F150s were included, I took the Lightning in to a Truck-only dealership (non SVT). The had the parts in stock, no questions asked, in and out in 35 minutes.

David

 

Where exactly is the switch so i can disconnect it myself?

Thanks

 

The switch is on the front of the mastercylender, Un plug the wire from the switch, and tape it safely out of the way. this will hold you over safely until parts are avalable.

 

http://home.att.net/~majikxj/cruise_control.jpg

I don't know how to insert pictures, but that's a link from another iste.

David

 

My understanding on this is that there is a repair part available, but it is not the part that will be available. Make sense? Me either. My Expedition went in the shop with electrical problems related to this recall before it was announced to include my year truck. They put the current available part on it and told me I needed to bring it back when the new parts available to change it out for the 2nd generation of the repair. Needless to say I haven't brought my L in for this crap yet.

 

Like some guys, I also did not wait for the recall. Paid the $15 for the new part and did it myself for some peace of mind. Did not want to risk the truck (and house and family)...small price to pay for peace of mind IMHO.



More info here: http://www.nhtoc.com/forum/showthrea...l&pagenumber=2

 

ill take my truck in when i get a list of stuff to do
oh yeah and fix the motor again

 

My 2002 got recalled a couple of weeks ago. I had to take it in only once. The dealer had the parts in stock. It's a quick and simple fix.

 

Thanks for posting this. I had been procrastinating and hadn't messed with my switch yet. I went to the other link, and read if your cruise control is acting eradic or stopped working all together you are are greater risk. Well, with the hike in gas prices I started using my cruise control, and it quite last week! I just went out and unplugged my switch immediately. Guess I'll see when my dealer can get me in.

 

as posted by LEE ('02 H-D#677)...convinced me NOT TO WAIT

Ah-ha! Late yesterday afternoon I obtained the absolute definitive “skinny” regarding the entire issue associated with the Cruise Control Pressure Switch (CCPS) located at the Master Cylinder (MC). The Service Manager (shall remain anonymous) at my dealership that I have worked with for quite a few years recently returned (June 16) from a Professional Growth/Development Training Program conducted by FoMoCo in the Detroit area (Troy, MI). During this training program, the Service Managers in attendance were debriefed regarding the situation associated with the CCPS/MC recall. He (my friendly Service Manager) shared with me what the “real” situation is regarding this whole issue.

Ford has issued the recall for those vehicles that have publicly been identified based on satisfying NTSB standards associated with the number of problems reported for those vehicle models. Apparently, the problematic recall potential is MUCH more pervasive! The debriefing indicated that virtually ALL domestic FoMoCo makes (Ford, Lincoln, Mercury … not Volvo or Mazda) and ALL models made from ’96-’04 (with exception of ’99-’04 Super Duty trucks) are potentially affected. Note that ’05 models are NOT impacted.

The issue is that all makes and models use the same CCPS/MC (except noted Super Duty truck years). The affected switch incorporates a rubber/fiber diaphragm that can lose its resilience, become brittle, and crack. If the diaphragm cracks, brake fluid can enter the sealed enclosure of the switch and come in contact with the enclosed “hot” (+) switch electrodes. Although the chance of occurrence is slight, this condition MAY result in possible combustion of the brake fluid. The Super Duty trucks are not subject to this condition because they use a CCPS/MC of different design. The Super Duty CCPS/MC design incorporates a heavier/”beefier” 100% real rubber diaphragm that is not susceptible to the aforementioned “cracking” scenario.

Ford has issued a Brake Repair Kit to address those recalled vehicles. This kit contains an upgraded CCPS/MC (the EXACT same one used on all ’99-’05 Super Duty trucks), an electrical umbilical/adapter (to connect the existing harness to the new Super Duty switch), and a single “zip tie” (to secure the new umbilical/adapter since it extends the harness about 5”). A picture of this Brake Repair Kit and its contents are attached below. The kit costs $22.78 (dealer retail) and the part number is: SW-6350; 1L1Z-9F924-AA. It requires all of five minutes to install (unplug CCPS/MC, remove it, replace new CCPS/MC, snap-in umbilical/adapter). It is readily available at all dealers.

My friendly Service Manager said that it is his estimation that anyone owning ANY domestic FoMoCo vehicle made during the last 10 model years should probably obtain this kit and install it since it is inexpensive, easy to install, and provides owner assurance that their car won’t burn! He also indicated that if it has not occurred within the first two or three years of ownership that it probably won’t anyway. Wow! … some consolation, huh? He also said that there are, in fact, symptoms that will be displayed if there is a problem with the CCPS/MC. There are two known symptoms. First, the cruise control may start operating sporadically (sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t). Second, the cruise control just stops working altogether (switch is not pressurized … broken/cracked diaphragm).

Bottom line is that this is potentially a very large and costly recall for FoMoCo. As a business, I can understand how they would want/need to perform damage control and minimize its overall impact. As a good corporate social citizen, however, … hmmm.

 

Liability should always be a consideration. I don’t like having the dealer touch my truck any more than the next guy. I was raised under the notion that if is possible to fix a problem yourself, fix the problem yourself. However, please allow me to make the argument that you should allow Ford to perform the recall repair instead of buying the replacement part and fixing the problem yourself.

As a general rule, a consumer is not liable for injury or damage resulting from the malfunction of a product. Instead, the product manufacturer is liable when the product is defectively designed. A product is defectively designed if the magnitude of the risk is using the product outweighs the utility of the product. However, manufacturers are rarely held to a strict liability standard. This means that comparative fault may be a factor in determining which parties may be liable.

What does this mean for Ford and F-150 owners?
1) The cruise control switch was defectively designed because the risk in using it outweighs any utility derived from it. To argue otherwise would be contrary to the evidence. Ford itself acknowledged the switch was defectively designed by issuing a recall modifying the product. Furthermore, the fact that Ford’s remedy is to disconnect the cruise control until replacement parts become available indicates that Ford believes that using the product as originally designed is a substantial risk.
2) Should a catastrophic failure of the cruise control switch cause damage or injury, the vehicle owner herself may be held comparatively liable if she failed to take reasonable action to have the problem remedied by Ford. This means that if you ignore Ford’s warnings and do not have the switch fixed, you run the risk of becoming a liable party. If there’s a problem and a neighbor’s house is damaged, or another passenger is injured, or even if an accident occurs while driving because your engine caught fire, you will sit next to Ford at the defendant’s table.

This doesn’t mean that Ford won’t replace your vehicle if it’s destroyed, or even pay for your own injuries if you, as the owner, become injured. But it does mean that a third party can hold you liable. If you repair the switch yourself, you will be able to argue that you took all the necessary care that a reasonably prudent vehicle owner would take in prevent injury. And your argument would be valid. But why put yourself in the position of being forced to make that defense when you do not have to? Simply let Ford fix the switch and the liability remains with them.

Oh ya, and it’s free to let Ford fix the problem.

Just my thoughts on the matter,
-Justin B.

 

Has anyone with a 03-04 Lightning every had this problem?

 

I personally haven’t heard of any however since my 03 L is parked in the garage directly under my apartment I unplugged mine and taped it up. I may purchase the replacement kit from Ford for my own piece of mind…

 

I'm in the same boat. My L parks in my garage which is directly under my bedroom. Could be a VERY bad scene.