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Why don't lightnings 60' worth a darn?

Old Jul 13, 2005 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by St Louis Lightning
Ok, how about our stock 350z that we get 2.1 and 2.2's out of?

Was the check driver light flashing?

Stock 350Z with tire = 1.58 last weekend at Capital Raceway in MD <----poorly prepped track.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by BruceScrew
I've run my 6000# 2001 Supercrew 4x4 on stock Goodyear tires (not in 4WD) and got a 1.97 second 60' time - 10 PSI boost assisted.

I go 1.79 on F1's. I just don't see the point in building my tranny and paying for slicks to go 1.69's.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by SVT F15O
Weight. Notice most of the guys getting the best 60' times strip their trucks.
I have gotten a few HIGH 1.5X 60' times though while still being heavy.
It takes a lot to get close to 5,000LBs rolling. -Mat-
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you don't have to strip your trucks to get good 60 foot times, though I will agree with you a stock Lightning doesn't 60' the best.

With a few simple bolt on mods you can really improve your 60' times, but you don't have to strip your truck to do it. Put some softer front springs in, some good traction bars(Ranch style) 4 good adjustable shock, a good set of slicks, and watch your 60 foot times drop. Then as you add more power things like a torque converter and taller slicks will help you even more. One of the best mods I have seen in getting great 60' times is a set of 30 inch slicks. The 28" slicks just don't have the sidewall to really hook to the track, especially with a modded truck.

In my case I was able to pul a 1.50 60 foot time a few times, and that was at close to 4800 lbs.

I have also found that many lightning owners are to agressive off the line and get wheel spin. Then there are those who are to timid off the line and are afraid to be a little bit more agressive. There is a fine line between a perfect hook, and getting wheel spin. Sometimes you have to leave the line a little easier to get the best 60' times. I have personally jumped in quite a few trucks and taken a truck that never had a 1.6x 60' times, and just by launching different getting much better 60' times.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 09:14 AM
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1.7's & 1.6's 60' should be pretty easy to hook for Our trucks. You always need a well prepped track, good weather conditions & Good Slicks. The Big horse power guys like Vinny & Don's Bolt will Get there 1.5 60' but I believe that anything Running 1.4 60' or Better need a 4-Link set up to Really stick All the Power to the Ground. My Turbo Truck has gone 1.21 60' but with weight reduction, 4-Link, Big Tires, & Big Power there is No Real Secret to it. Good Luck Guys.

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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 09:37 AM
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lol, I cant believe a 1.6 60 is considered garbage. Have you seen the srt-10 guys 60's? They would die to have a 1.8. They are ranging on average from 2.0 to 2.2's. Thus the horrible times they put out at the 1/4.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 11:47 AM
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park a Lightning nose to nose with any of these cars mentioned and the reason will become very clear

Originally Posted by Don's Bolt

With a few simple bolt on mods you can really improve your 60' times, but you don't have to strip your truck to do it. Put some softer front springs in, some good traction bars(Ranch style) 4 good adjustable shock, a good set of slicks, and watch your 60 foot times drop. Then as you add more power things like a torque converter and taller slicks will help you even more. One of the best mods I have seen in getting great 60' times is a set of 30 inch slicks. The 28" slicks just don't have the sidewall to really hook to the track, especially with a modded truck.
I only wish this were true in my case. I cannot 60' any better than with my F1s now that I have Hoosiers. 6,000 miles on the truck running perfect, maybe 390 RWHP... cannot break into the 1.8s no matter what. It cuts decent times, just not decent 60s. Have launched at every RPM and off idle. As aggressive as humanly possible. i have concluded my stock stall converter absolutely sucks. I cannot get one ounce of wheelspin. Hell, I don't even have to do a burnout with my Hoosier QTPs. Granted my track is always prepped pretty good. Oh well, I still am impressed with the trucks abilities.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by WaveBlaster785

Stock 350Z with tire = 1.58 last weekend at Capital Raceway in MD <----poorly prepped track.
i'd have to wave the BS flag on this one, or attribute it to a fubar'd timer or something. even with slicks and a 6,000 RPM clutch dump I'd think it would fall on its face 10 ft out. i'd be very skeptical that that thing was *stock*.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 12:20 PM
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There are many aspets to getting a good launch....

I had low 1.6x's all the time with a stock convertor, 28in tall tire, and caltracs....

Weight- These trucks are heavy! Torque gets weight moving...

Weight Transfer- Getting weight to the rear tires will help. A cheap thing that works is a lowering kit and good shocks... Or a softer spring and good shocks...

Your Tune- What gives low end power? Timing... This is where your race tune really helps. To much timing will kill power, but you need to find where your truck makes the most low end + top end power.

Your ET is all in the 60 foot...



BTW.. I know a Stock 350z with tire wont do anything better than a 1.7 or 1.8... Been there done that... The stock gearing and tranny ratio sucks...
Easily could have been a clock problem...
 
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Ayrton
Weight transfer and the flimsy frame the truck sits on. F150s were never designed to be raced, so you get what you get.
How much would that KB X-brace help?
 
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Slick_Sammy
i'd have to wave the BS flag on this one, or attribute it to a fubar'd timer or something. even with slicks and a 6,000 RPM clutch dump I'd think it would fall on its face 10 ft out. i'd be very skeptical that that thing was *stock*.

Not sure, he pulled a 1.6 in the other lane an hour or so later. Again, maybe it wasn't stock, maybe it was a timing issue, either way, I'm not worried about it, it was a comparison.

My point is that he's comparing street tire times to slick times. Even better, comparing imports on street tire, both FWD and RWD. It's not even a comparison, it just makes some feel better about their 60's.

Just like the SRT-10 comparison, 2.1-2.0 is on 22's. How can you compare that to an auto Lightning on Slicks? You can't.

People get all testy when you question something about these trucks. Point is there's got to be a way to get these things 60'ing better and I was just looking for ideas.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 02:53 PM
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60 Ft. time

I've got down to mid-low 1.5's with a best of 1.52. I'm happy with that, feels good hookin' up with very little spin and then getting the G-Force smile.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 07:21 PM
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I think everyone here forgets that all we are driving is a modified FARM TRUCK.

It wasn't designed to be a race truck. Sure it's quick and all, but it was designed as a Truck, not a sports/race car.


I have to agree with the flimsy rear end. Hopefully that will be fixed this summer on my truck

BTW: Strange Engineering makes 10 way adjustable race shocks for racing! The rear squats and stays squatted, unlike Other popular street shocks that people use for the track.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by NCsvt2003L
that would be a whole tenth in the 1/4.

Dont you mean 1 Whole second
 
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by WaveBlaster785
Was the check driver light flashing?

Stock 350Z with tire = 1.58 last weekend at Capital Raceway in MD <----poorly prepped track.
That would be an absolute RECORD.. I hope that person gets on all the 350z boards and tells of his great run!

1.58 and the track was poorly prepped? We need that BS icon here.. And it was stock!

My point was completely stock on F1's, the Lightning pulls better 60's than most "sports" cars that are also on their stock tires.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by WaveBlaster785
Not sure, he pulled a 1.6 in the other lane an hour or so later. Again, maybe it wasn't stock, maybe it was a timing issue, either way, I'm not worried about it, it was a comparison.
In other words, you are willing to make up "facts" if it supports your argument..



 
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