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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 08:22 PM
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how about the drive shaft saftey loop... i cant tell if this piece gets in the way of where the loop mounts or not??
If push comes to shove, you can always move to another loop. The Metco loop mounts from above, so I know that it will fit.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 11:52 PM
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Originally posted by Tim Skelton
If push comes to shove, you can always move to another loop. The Metco loop mounts from above, so I know that it will fit.
doesn't it attach to the floor board?
Also you have to remove your Dirveshaft to install it? They are balanced.
http://www.srt10forum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=208
 
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Old Mar 14, 2005 | 12:04 AM
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Originally posted by l-menace
doesn't it attach to the floor board?
Also you have to remove your Dirveshaft to install it? They are balanced.
Yes, the Metco loop mounts to the floorboards. Removing the driveshaft is easy -- mark the shaft position with a scribe, remove four bolts, and drop the shaft. 10 minutes max. And it's really light.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2005 | 12:14 AM
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How it's built they really should have a drive shaft safety loop built into it IMO. Or as a bolt on piece.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2005 | 10:56 PM
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Has anyone else tried this yet?

I'm anxious to see other peoples input ... the more the merrier.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2005 | 10:56 AM
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And that's WITH the 1200 lb springs from Stan !!!

Face it guys, our trucks are just too freaking HEAVY.

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Old Mar 20, 2005 | 11:04 AM
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Originally posted by l-menace
Has anyone else tried this yet?

I'm anxious to see other peoples input ... the more the merrier.
Some one on NLOC did
http://www.nloc.net/forum/showthread...ht=kenny+brown

His first post is on page 4, here is a copy, paste of it.




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Hey QKSILVR - I had the Dakota X-Brace too!

In fact, I owned a Kenny Brown Dakota Conversion Vehicle. The best truck I ever owned. Vortech Supercharged, chassis and suspension, exhaust, wheels and tires - Whew! What a blast it was to dust off everything short of Z06's. The X-Brace was definately a huge boost on that truck. I got T-boned going through an intersection here in Indy and lost the truck, the X-Brace saved my life - No kidding!

Any way, I bought a 2003 Lightning in January and guess what, I just got the truck back from Kenny Brown's shop located just down the street from my office on Gasoline Alley. So I signed up for the forum after a friend of mine sent me this link and I will respond to some of your questions.

I had the Kenny Brown X-Factor Suspension System installed, which consisted of: The X-Factor Braces, Front Springs and Sway Bar and Lowering Kit for the rear. He offers a two inch lowering system and a three inch lowering system, which includes shocks. I opted for the 2 inch lowering kit so my wife would not shoot me. My biggest concern was ride quality, which as most of you know is never good in any truck.

I have had the truck back for only two days, but here is what I can tell you so far:

1. The truck is definately faster, I assume from the frame stiffening system, which logically is going to put a lot more power to the wheels. There is no apparent loss of ground clearence with the kit either. It is really tucked up under the truck and I can point out six different OEM parts that hang down lower that the chassis braces.

2. The truck rides, literally, twice as good as it ever did before. The spring rates are definately stiffer, but ride quality is much more improved.

3. The truck handles much better and much more like the Mustang I run at open-track events, hell I would not be afraid to take this thing to the track now. I handles like it is on rails!

4. I looked at a lot of sway bars and a friend of mine just got one for his truck, but his fitment sucked. The sway bar Kenny Brown installed is much more like an OEM bar would be and the end links are much better than the ones in my friends kit. I like the bar KB uses.

5. In conclusion, I bought the Lightning becaused I missed my KB Dakota, but was disappointed in the performance. The Kenny Brown kit gave me a good foundation and a better perspective of what additional upgrades I needed to do to the Lightning in order to acheive the same results as Kenny did with the Dakota.

I can't post any pictures because I am not a NLOC member yet, but I did take some when the truck was at Kenny's shop. I watched the whole kit being installed (chassis braces) and the whole thing does not take two hours. In fact it attaches to all existing holes and I probably could have done it in my driveway over a couple of cold beers.

If you are on the fence, I can testify that the stuff is good and works better than they advertise. It will definately pay more than $500 back on trade-in or re-sell and is the best $500 bucks I have spent on this thing so far. Gotta love the ride too!

If you can afford it, get it! You won't regret it!
 
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Old Mar 20, 2005 | 11:10 AM
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I've had the F150 frame down to nothing but bare frame.

Let me tell you guys... that flame twists like crazy by itself.

 
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Old Mar 20, 2005 | 03:42 PM
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That post above sounds like a KB add...

I remember calling there 2 years ago to see if they had suspension stuff for the L. The KB guy sounded so condescending and almost called me an idiot to take a truck on the track. I guess they realized that there is money there...

KB is such a rip off. My friend just installed a diff cooler in his 03 Cobra for a total of $300. KB sells the same thing for $1300.

I know that the Cobras have a ton of frame twist but how much flex does a full frame vehicle have?

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Old Mar 20, 2005 | 05:20 PM
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Cobra's are unibody, meaning they are STIFF.

Lightnings have a full frame meaning they flex, alot.

In the late 80's when Jeep came out with the Cherokee, there were a lot of skeptics because the cherkoee is uni-body and wouldn' t have the flex of all the other 4x4's. People thought the body would crack in half because of tha lack of flex when driven off road. Well Jeep proved them wrong.

People use Full framed vehicles for off road because they flex alot, just like the lightning.



Here is a '68 Chevy Truck Frame that a friend and I restored (now prowling the streets of Scottsdale AZ). Two of us could easily lift the frame (without engine and tranny) and it flexed like a wet noodle. There isn't much stiffening on a full frame truck, as the frame flex absorbs some of the harsh off road obstacles.


Here's the old cab (ended up junking it)


And the One Piece tilt front end, (Fiberglass)
 
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