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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 11:32 AM
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ya, Thanks Sal, i'm waiting on an Xcalibrator from you so i should be ok You answered my questions and gave me a better understanding.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 11:47 AM
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Originally posted by Magnum Powers
Whitelightning, Most guys see 65 to 70rwhp gains over the Eaton running a stock block with a 4# pulley and a 100+ hp with a built motor and 8# pulley. Fast Freddy (FF) has a stock long block with all the bolt-ons he makes 460rwhp on pump gas and 500rwhp on race gas and tune, these number are STD taken on a DynoJet. FF ran 11.5 last summer. Sal can answer your question regarding what information your tuner will need.

Charles
Sounds like from the above post there is no disadvantage of the MP over the KB. Seems like nobody wants to touch this comparison question with a 10ft pole. I'm not asking for anybody to throw either one of the blowers under the bus, just trying to find out if the two blowers are really close to each other (AT THIS LEVEL OF PERFORMANCE).
 
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 12:16 PM
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Originally posted by Blown347Hatch
Sounds like from the above post there is no disadvantage of the MP over the KB. Seems like nobody wants to touch this comparison question with a 10ft pole. I'm not asking for anybody to throw either one of the blowers under the bus, just trying to find out if the two blowers are really close to each other (AT THIS LEVEL OF PERFORMANCE).
Greg, it's hard to say, because nobody has tried it yet. I don't want to say that the MP will work as well or better than a KB without facts. The design, and our testing so far, does show that it should perform close to the KB when spun hard, but nobody has done that yet. Suavy has made 24 psi with his, but the rest of his combo wasn't up to that much boost. The KB is inefficient and drops off when spun very hard, and the MP is MADE to be spun hard. The KB makes good power because of it's larger displacement. But it also puts a huge strain on the crank, and some people who spin KBs really fast are having issues keeping the keyway in the crank snout. I had this same problem with the Whipple on my truck.

So at this point it's all speculation, but I plan to test it soon and see what it can really do.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 12:26 PM
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Thanks for the response Sal.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 12:30 PM
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the only testing i have done is at the track.

i have raced a few KB and one works blower trucks.

and i can tell you the magnum performs very well

i have spun the magnum up to 19.5 lbs on a stock block

i would buy the blower again in a heart beat
 
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 08:10 PM
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Rob's black one is nice but I like mine better!


Thats awesome Suavy ! Where did you have it polished,how much ? thanx! maybe sal will offer that polished not sure if they clear-coat them too.:
 
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 08:18 PM
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Sal ! I called lisa about the bracket but, now you went & did this, I will be ready for one shortly. But need to put some miles on the port-job. heehee!
 
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 09:30 PM
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Originally posted by SMOKINTRUCK#1
Thats awesome Suavy ! Where did you have it polished,how much ? thanx! maybe sal will offer that polished not sure if they clear-coat them too.:
That was done courtesy of Charles Warner and MP.

I think he said it was a little over 500 bucks to have that done.

My new blower has a silver painted body and polished nose cone and upper plenum.

Charles is the man!!!!

I will make him proud this year God permitting!

Suavy
 
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 09:31 PM
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Originally posted by LightningTuner
Greg, it's hard to say, because nobody has tried it yet. I don't want to say that the MP will work as well or better than a KB without facts. The design, and our testing so far, does show that it should perform close to the KB when spun hard, but nobody has done that yet. Suavy has made 24 psi with his, but the rest of his combo wasn't up to that much boost. The KB is inefficient and drops off when spun very hard, and the MP is MADE to be spun hard. The KB makes good power because of it's larger displacement. But it also puts a huge strain on the crank, and some people who spin KBs really fast are having issues keeping the keyway in the crank snout. I had this same problem with the Whipple on my truck.

So at this point it's all speculation, but I plan to test it soon and see what it can really do.
Sal, I think we are going to be better to try the max boost thing this year. We have added stage 3 cams which are good for up to 7K rpm's and a few other performance things.

I may need a bigger set of injectors!

Suavy
 
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 10:20 PM
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Originally posted by Magnum Powers
Whitelightning, Most guys see 65 to 70rwhp gains over the Eaton running a stock block with a 4# pulley and a 100+ hp with a built motor and 8# pulley. Fast Freddy (FF) has a stock long block with all the bolt-ons he makes 460rwhp on pump gas and 500rwhp on race gas and tune, these number are STD taken on a DynoJet. FF ran 11.5 last summer. Sal can answer your question regarding what information your tuner will need.

Charles
Hello sal can you answer my q stated above? ty u Fast freddy what size lower did he have to get those #s
 
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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 01:41 AM
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Thumbs up Boost = 20+

That was with a four pound lower.
Race Tune = 494HP
Pump Gas = 464HP

I just installed MP's new idler bracket and picked up about 5-10HP in the upper rpm range.
Funny thing is, I didn't think i was slipping.
Larger lower pulleys will probably gain even more!

FF



Street Tune(93 octane)


____Blue = Stock Bracket_____________Red = MP Bracket


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World's Fastest Magnum Powers Stock Block___________11.5@116
 
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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 03:11 AM
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you only did those numbers on 20+ psi? ouch, i wouldnt be postin that on the net, especially if it was on a STD jdm dyno.:o
 
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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 10:07 AM
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Originally posted by 1badazzavt
you only did those numbers on 20+ psi? ouch, i wouldnt be postin that on the net, especially if it was on a STD jdm dyno.:o
"World's Fastest Magnum Powers Stock Block___________11.5@116"

Those numbers look pretty good to me..
 
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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 11:49 AM
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Originally posted by 1badazzavt
you only did those numbers on 20+ psi? ouch, i wouldnt be postin that on the net, especially if it was on a STD jdm dyno.:o
Rather than focus on his dyno numbers, why don't you take a look at what the truck runs? Sometimes the dyno "number" isn't the end all, be all to racing.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 09:26 PM
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Re: Boost = 20+

Originally posted by SILVERLIGHTNING
That was with a four pound lower.
Race Tune = 494HP
Pump Gas = 464HP

I just installed MP's new idler bracket and picked up about 5-10HP in the upper rpm range.
Funny thing is, I didn't think i was slipping.
Larger lower pulleys will probably gain even more!

FF



Street Tune(93 octane)


____Blue = Stock Bracket_____________Red = MP Bracket


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World's Fastest Magnum Powers Stock Block___________11.5@116
Gess you made 20 lbs boost on 4 lb pulley ..What did your tuner have to change?
 
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