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Originally posted by fomocofan
NTIMD8, I agree and I have respect for both tuners/builders.
I do know that JDM now uses Manley pistons and rods.
That is all I can add for sure.
I do believe you can get a JDM motor with a seasoned block.
I am thinking the price may have something to do with the included parts...i.e., head studs seals gaskets etc..??
Bottom line, is I don't think there is any HP difference in the short blocks, the only way there could be would be in the balance??
Anyway, it appears that Johnny's lower prices are encouraging others to lower their prices...this is a good thing!!
NTIMD8, I agree and I have respect for both tuners/builders.
I do know that JDM now uses Manley pistons and rods.
That is all I can add for sure.
I do believe you can get a JDM motor with a seasoned block.
I am thinking the price may have something to do with the included parts...i.e., head studs seals gaskets etc..??
Bottom line, is I don't think there is any HP difference in the short blocks, the only way there could be would be in the balance??
Anyway, it appears that Johnny's lower prices are encouraging others to lower their prices...this is a good thing!!
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Originally posted by 35thPony
JDM uses Manley pistons and rods, but they are custom built for JDM, so they do use different pistons and rods... I am not saying that one is better than the other, like I said, do research and decide...
JDM uses Manley pistons and rods, but they are custom built for JDM, so they do use different pistons and rods... I am not saying that one is better than the other, like I said, do research and decide...
No bash or anything. Just wondering what the differences are.
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Originally posted by NTIMD8
I am curious to know what these "differences" are. Basically all (except for the ones made in the US) H-beam rods for the 5.4 are made from same mold from over seas and both use ARP 2000 studs (I think). I cant see Manley changing the mold for the limited number that will be sold to one company.
No bash or anything. Just wondering what the differences are.
I am curious to know what these "differences" are. Basically all (except for the ones made in the US) H-beam rods for the 5.4 are made from same mold from over seas and both use ARP 2000 studs (I think). I cant see Manley changing the mold for the limited number that will be sold to one company.
No bash or anything. Just wondering what the differences are.
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Originally posted by 35thPony
JDM uses Manley pistons and rods, but they are custom built for JDM, so they do use different pistons and rods... I am not saying that one is better than the other, like I said, do research and decide...
JDM uses Manley pistons and rods, but they are custom built for JDM, so they do use different pistons and rods... I am not saying that one is better than the other, like I said, do research and decide...
any time you take some parts and a block to a machine shop to get blueprinted and balanced you get "custom" parts
i doubt the molecular structure is any difrent.
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Originally posted by lightninquick
c'mon now do we need to describe custom here
any time you take some parts and a block to a machine shop to get blueprinted and balanced you get "custom" parts
i doubt the molecular structure is any difrent.
c'mon now do we need to describe custom here
any time you take some parts and a block to a machine shop to get blueprinted and balanced you get "custom" parts
i doubt the molecular structure is any difrent.
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Originally posted by 35thPony
I don't want to really go into the differences that I located because I really like the JLP guys and I am not going to try and sway anyone one way or the other... Both build great blocks.
I don't want to really go into the differences that I located because I really like the JLP guys and I am not going to try and sway anyone one way or the other... Both build great blocks.
Cheers, Jason
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Originally posted by 35thPony
i will tell you they are not the same from Manley... they are close but there are two differences.... Like I said, both are great...
i will tell you they are not the same from Manley... they are close but there are two differences.... Like I said, both are great...
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Originally posted by fomocofan
JDM uses .150" tool steel wrist pins.
JDM uses .150" tool steel wrist pins.
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Originally posted by 35thPony
There's one difference... some of you others aren't as smart as you think... I think this is a major difference, I have seen a wrist pin fail and it is very ugly.
There's one difference... some of you others aren't as smart as you think... I think this is a major difference, I have seen a wrist pin fail and it is very ugly.
-Mark
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Originally posted by St Louis Lightning
At this point, does anyone know that JLP does not? No sense making assumptions.
-Mark
At this point, does anyone know that JLP does not? No sense making assumptions.
-Mark
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the person not as smart as they think is you. what does the wall thickness have anything to do with the rod?
the stock pin is .150. je's are .150 as well but come with other options. manleys originally come with a .120 thick wall at 89 grams.
most manufacters including the stock pistons use a .150 pin. your acting like theirs is some sort of an upgrade?
the stock pin is .150. je's are .150 as well but come with other options. manleys originally come with a .120 thick wall at 89 grams.
most manufacters including the stock pistons use a .150 pin. your acting like theirs is some sort of an upgrade?
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Originally posted by 1badazzavt
the person not as smart as they think is you. what does the wall thickness have anything to do with the rod?
the stock pin is .150. je's are .150 as well but come with other options. manleys originally come with a .120 thick wall at 89 grams.
most manufacters including the stock pistons use a .150 pin. your acting like theirs is some sort of an upgrade?
the person not as smart as they think is you. what does the wall thickness have anything to do with the rod?
the stock pin is .150. je's are .150 as well but come with other options. manleys originally come with a .120 thick wall at 89 grams.
most manufacters including the stock pistons use a .150 pin. your acting like theirs is some sort of an upgrade?
Quit turning this into a flame war... I said both blocks are good, but there are some differences... two diffences in the pistons/rods... and then the thickness of the walls due to the new blocks used by JDM... I have not said one bad thing about JLP, but people should not believe they are the exact same parts, because it just is not true.... If JDM wasn't on sale, JLP is the one I would own hands down...
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not a flame war. i don't really care about either of these engines. i'm concentrating on your statement about the rods. you say they're different, when in fact they're not. then someone mentioned the pin wall thickness and you acted like that was a difference in the rod. if theres a difference please share that info.