You are correct.

 

Only partways.

The KB test used 100 octane fuel, but no tune/flash.

 

Oh, yeah.

To all of those who still repeat the myth that a chip is required for higher boost levels,

 

 

not as it sits now. The shape of the plenum and bolt pattern where the TB connects to the plenum will change nore to a rectangular shape to accept the L throttle body setup. I'm sure if you want it THAT bad whipple might sell you the stock/prototype plenum and TB setup

SpankDog

I'll find about a GP


Will

 

just please find out when the hell we can actually order one. They have been saying a couple more weeks since beginning of October.

 

new updates:

All dyno numbers are in SAE format. Dyno graphs will be sent once testing is complete.

there is not a real possibility with the Group purchase

The truck used is a 2003 lightning. Ford is loaning whipple the truck. To those of you that went to sema, the red lightning that ford used as a drifting demonstration, that is the truck that whipple is currently running the 2.3 on. Here are a few differences between the whipple and the Kb:

Will

 

I've got a "give me the bottom line" question. It's not meant to offend in _anyway_, or stir the pot. It's theoretical in nature, based on my understanding of forced induction (which is not professional, but honestly is probably farther along than the average shade-tree mechanic).

As it sits my truck sees 12-13psi on my aftermarket Autometer gauge. Let's just assume its accurate for argument's sake.

With no exhaust mods, the truck puts down 393rwhp/482rwtq from a stock Eaton. Yes, it has a 4# pulley, a CAI, an SCT tune and an aftermarket heat exchanger (which I'm not sure helps on the dyno when you're allowing sufficient cool-down b/w pulls).

If I pulley the Whipple to make the same boost as I'm seeing now (I realize this will necessitate a swap back to the stock lower pulley), am I correct in thinking that I'll see ~23rwhp gain over what I'm making now... given these initial tests?

I'm inclined to think so. I don't think the tune will make a big difference _assuming_ both are safe. You may be able to get a bit more aggressive with the more efficient blower at the _same_ boost level. In theory, you should be able to. However, wide variation in driving scenarios (heat/cool, high speed vs. short drag race, stop n go traffic, etc) will probably limit the "to the edge tuning" that otherwise would put up some serious #s on the dyno.

In all honesty, at the SAME boost level (albeit relatively "low" at 12-13psi compared to some of the monsters on this board), I was hoping the Whipple would show 50-60rwhp gain over the Eaton. I am SURE that at significantly higher boost levels (17+psi) the Whipple will indeed make much more significant gains over the Eaton... after all the Eaton is way past its efficiency at those levels.

 

well the initial tests showed a gain of 55hp at the wheels. the stock dyno showed 351Hp and the only change being the 2300AX kit upped the Hp to 416 average over 10 runs. I would say, DO NOT TAKE THIS AS A REAL NUMBER, with your mods and changing over to a whipple you would prob be around 450-475 at the tire.

Another update:

as per dustin on the availability of the 2300's, they should be available shortly. The 3.3 being 3-5 weeks behind it. The plan on having the 3.3's in stock by the last week of Jan. They might be taking orders prior to that.

Also an adapter is being made so the lightning TB setup can be used. The setup shown in the pic of the 90mm throttle body can still be used at an additional cost.

Will

 

As in, 1st-2nd week in January maybe? Oh, and will they be polished? I have to have a polished one for my truck.

 

with the adapter being made instead of a whole plenum it could be very much possible. The adapter cuts down a lot of time compared to making a whole new plenum

Polished will be a $600.00 upgrade. The will come from whipple with the black krinkle finish like the works 140.

Will

 

Will, I appreciate your thoughts. However, I don't think I made myself clear.

With my mods (4lb lower pulley to be more precise), I would be way over 13psi if I just swapped on a 2300. Probably pushing 18psi. I'd agree... it would be 450+rwhp easily.

I also understand that it made 55rwhp over stock on the test truck, but _most_ of that was b/c of the boost increase. In my case, I'm not going to want to increase boost.

I'm honestly trying to figure what the difference is taking XXpsi vs. XXpsi... and considering the relatively low boost level I'm running. I am probably in the minority here, but I believe its a relative topic concerning blower efficiency comparisons at a given airflow.

Thanks

 

yea the guesstimate of numbers was if you switched to a stock lower and kept your current mods except the 4lber and got a tune. If you kept the 4lber that would be pushing it

Will

 

Spanky,Is there a different internal gear ratio thats responsible for the higher boost levels?

 

since FRPP will have whipple superchargers , will there be any chance that it will not void my warranty???? If it will void my warranty, I would have to wait 6yrs before I even think of buying any performance parts for my lightning......