GTO by what looked like GM
Raced a GTO at the track and it wasnt very impressing. If my memory serves me right he ran a high 13 or low 14. He said he couldnt hook and i am sure he was right. He was also new to drag racing. I owned a 67 goat when i was in high school and have alway loved GTOs but i dont like the new styling.
Originally posted by Herb101
Timeslip???
Magazine times don't mean much at all...
Real world numbers are usually close to a second slower.
Magazines get to test car because the manufacturer wants to sell them.
Magazines are for advertising. If it's a 12.9 car, post up a timeslip for it.
Benchracing only counts if the bench is under your butt while your racing for real.
Herb
Timeslip???
Magazine times don't mean much at all...
Real world numbers are usually close to a second slower.
Magazines get to test car because the manufacturer wants to sell them.
Magazines are for advertising. If it's a 12.9 car, post up a timeslip for it.
Benchracing only counts if the bench is under your butt while your racing for real.
Herb
Originally posted by Herb101
Timeslip???
Magazine times don't mean much at all...
Real world numbers are usually close to a second slower.
Magazines get to test car because the manufacturer wants to sell them. The cars are usually ringgers, as are the drivers and everything is a 'corrected' time. When is the last time you saw a timeslip in the magazine. Or for that matter, when is the last time someone knowledgable accepted a 'correct' time for your car as fact.
Magazines are for advertising. If it's a 12.9 car, post up a timeslip for it.
Benchracing only counts if the bench is under your butt while your racing for real.
Herb
Timeslip???
Magazine times don't mean much at all...
Real world numbers are usually close to a second slower.
Magazines get to test car because the manufacturer wants to sell them. The cars are usually ringgers, as are the drivers and everything is a 'corrected' time. When is the last time you saw a timeslip in the magazine. Or for that matter, when is the last time someone knowledgable accepted a 'correct' time for your car as fact.
Magazines are for advertising. If it's a 12.9 car, post up a timeslip for it.
Benchracing only counts if the bench is under your butt while your racing for real.
Herb
Originally posted by Herb101
Timeslip???
Magazine times don't mean much at all...
Real world numbers are usually close to a second slower.
Magazines get to test car because the manufacturer wants to sell them. The cars are usually ringgers, as are the drivers and everything is a 'corrected' time. When is the last time you saw a timeslip in the magazine. Or for that matter, when is the last time someone knowledgable accepted a 'correct' time for your car as fact.
Magazines are for advertising. If it's a 12.9 car, post up a timeslip for it.
Benchracing only counts if the bench is under your butt while your racing for real.
Herb
Timeslip???
Magazine times don't mean much at all...
Real world numbers are usually close to a second slower.
Magazines get to test car because the manufacturer wants to sell them. The cars are usually ringgers, as are the drivers and everything is a 'corrected' time. When is the last time you saw a timeslip in the magazine. Or for that matter, when is the last time someone knowledgable accepted a 'correct' time for your car as fact.
Magazines are for advertising. If it's a 12.9 car, post up a timeslip for it.
Benchracing only counts if the bench is under your butt while your racing for real.
Herb
Timeslips:

I know the mags and a few of my ol L bros have commented about mundaine or boring styling. I had a '65 GTO 389 4-speed and now have an '04. I personally love the styling. Nice and stealthy to sneak up on the unsespecting. But I will tell you one thing. I don't take this car anywhere without having people walk up and ask me about the car, how I like it, how fast it is, and how really cool they think it is.
Is the GTO faster than an L? Hell no. My L would spank my GTO like a red headed stepchild. Stock for stock with equivelant drivers would be a toss up. I'd say whoever got traction first would win. But, I'd say the L responds much better to the simple bolt ons than a GTO will.
Either way, they're both a whole lot of fun. I had my L for almost 1 1/2 years and loved every minute of it. I've had the GTO for 5 or 6 weeks and love it too. I just know I'm happy there's so much choice in the high performance auto industry right now. I say we all win here.
Photo of my new daily driver:
Last edited by Mart Man 03 L; Dec 23, 2004 at 11:35 AM.
There is actually something to that. Compare the magazine time that are reported for the L when tested by itself vs. the times reported when it was compared to the SRT-10.
And actually, I have seen L's (fully stock, possible bad track prep) run 14.2 to 14.4 quarter mile times.
It took me a couple passes to break past 14's when I was stock.
Think back to when the F-bodies started to heat up again (~94). I was driving a Mustang GT to much better times than the magazines showed. Every benchracer around kept talking about the new Camaro whipping it in the 1/4 due to magazine time. Somebody finally stepped up and bought one and lost, again and again. These cars were nowhere near magazine times without mods.
I will say that (except for the stilted dethroning articles bias toward the SRT-10), the magazine press for the L's have been resonably close. Being a stab-n-grab ride with no gear stirring helps to hide the ringer driver crap though.
Herb
And actually, I have seen L's (fully stock, possible bad track prep) run 14.2 to 14.4 quarter mile times.
It took me a couple passes to break past 14's when I was stock.
Think back to when the F-bodies started to heat up again (~94). I was driving a Mustang GT to much better times than the magazines showed. Every benchracer around kept talking about the new Camaro whipping it in the 1/4 due to magazine time. Somebody finally stepped up and bought one and lost, again and again. These cars were nowhere near magazine times without mods.
I will say that (except for the stilted dethroning articles bias toward the SRT-10), the magazine press for the L's have been resonably close. Being a stab-n-grab ride with no gear stirring helps to hide the ringer driver crap though.
Herb
Originally posted by Mondo1
You must have driven a lemon. They are good for mid to high 13 second times.It barley got beaten by the Mach I in a recent magazine shootout (by 2 tenths or something). My friends yellow GTO is pretty darn fast. Just my 2 cents. I do agree about the styling, lack luster at best. GM is supposed to take back the the control of the car next year and is supposedly re-designing the body front to back according the Automobile magazine. It should look a lot better.
You must have driven a lemon. They are good for mid to high 13 second times.It barley got beaten by the Mach I in a recent magazine shootout (by 2 tenths or something). My friends yellow GTO is pretty darn fast. Just my 2 cents. I do agree about the styling, lack luster at best. GM is supposed to take back the the control of the car next year and is supposedly re-designing the body front to back according the Automobile magazine. It should look a lot better.
Originally posted by Herb101
There is actually something to that. Compare the magazine time that are reported for the L when tested by itself vs. the times reported when it was compared to the SRT-10.
And actually, I have seen L's (fully stock, possible bad track prep) run 14.2 to 14.4 quarter mile times.
It took me a couple passes to break past 14's when I was stock.
Herb
There is actually something to that. Compare the magazine time that are reported for the L when tested by itself vs. the times reported when it was compared to the SRT-10.
And actually, I have seen L's (fully stock, possible bad track prep) run 14.2 to 14.4 quarter mile times.
It took me a couple passes to break past 14's when I was stock.
Herb
ive seen stock trucks run 13.3's - 13.5's all day long on stock tires in 85+ degree heat
Over in the GTo forums there are plenty of 13.5 runs bone stock for 04 models w\350hp. The 05 has many changes and 400hp.
They surely wont turn heads with styling but the inside is very nice and the 400 LS2 has to have some kick.
They surely wont turn heads with styling but the inside is very nice and the 400 LS2 has to have some kick.
Not around here!!
If I recall properly, I went 14.5, 14.3, 14.1, 13.9 (or something like that) first time out. I got it down to a consistant 13.85 stock on 1/2 gone F1's with 60's in the 2.1 range.
This is fairly on target with the other stock L's that I've seen run.
With my mods (chip, 5#, CAI, Hi-flo cats) I've seen a best of 13.1 but not much traction with a 1.9 60 ft. I've got a set of ET steets and a pair of 58" bars under the tree that should help me into the 12's.
San Antonio seems to be a slow town! I've not seen ANYONE stock running mid 13's - not at Alamo Dragway or SAR...
Our 'normal' racing season day is 78-90 degrees and 60-90% rh and the track is at 600 ft.
Herb
If I recall properly, I went 14.5, 14.3, 14.1, 13.9 (or something like that) first time out. I got it down to a consistant 13.85 stock on 1/2 gone F1's with 60's in the 2.1 range.
This is fairly on target with the other stock L's that I've seen run.
With my mods (chip, 5#, CAI, Hi-flo cats) I've seen a best of 13.1 but not much traction with a 1.9 60 ft. I've got a set of ET steets and a pair of 58" bars under the tree that should help me into the 12's.
San Antonio seems to be a slow town! I've not seen ANYONE stock running mid 13's - not at Alamo Dragway or SAR...
Our 'normal' racing season day is 78-90 degrees and 60-90% rh and the track is at 600 ft.
Herb
The original GTO was the first American Muscle Car. I'ts a shame GM decided to import this plane Jane Holden, and call it a GTO.
performance! Put big engine in a mid size car.
when the cobra was brought back in 93 what do you think the guys with 427 ac cobras thought?(how about the 78 KIng cobra, there was a bas a$$) seems like that has evolved and worked out ok. give GM a chance to bring this car along.
Originally posted by litnfast
Saw one running 11's at Bradenton last March FWIW...
Nice interior... Boring exterior
:santa:
Saw one running 11's at Bradenton last March FWIW...
Nice interior... Boring exterior
:santa:
Reportedly the time (for a GTO) will depend on if it's an auto or stick. I suspect the stick gets a lower rear end. Of couse the driver can make a big difference. I imagine the 05 GTO with 400 HP and manual transmission is a pretty quick ride.
Originally posted by SVTARKANSAS
Reportedly the time (for a GTO) will depend on if it's an auto or stick. I suspect the stick gets a lower rear end. Of couse the driver can make a big difference. I imagine the 05 GTO with 400 HP and manual transmission is a pretty quick ride.
Reportedly the time (for a GTO) will depend on if it's an auto or stick. I suspect the stick gets a lower rear end. Of couse the driver can make a big difference. I imagine the 05 GTO with 400 HP and manual transmission is a pretty quick ride.
PEacE..........................................
Jim



