Thats to funny.
we are a spoiled bunch

 

This week decided to try out the new V-Power premium Shell (93 octane)...
I have always used Amoco 93 premium but wanted to try it out...here Amoco and the new Shell are the same price (2.04/gal)...so far I don't see any performance differences but it will take a little more time to really see.

 

 

Been a Shell consumer since the days they had a
real seashell on the stations.....

My truck has had nothing but 93 Shell for it's entire
45 K miles. (Along with a bit of Tolulene once in a while!)

I think the additives are a bit cheaper than buying "injector cleaner" when you change your oil !!!

My $.02

PS... I do know you can SMELL a difference between say Shell
and AMOCO or BP or EXXON ...

 

silver 2000
i think i can help with the different tankers at different stations as i drive one
you see shell or anyother big company does not have enough trucks to deliver to all of their stations everyday
so the work is contracted out to "carriers" companys with their name on the door but hauling the majors gas
the company i work for up here does work for shell, exxon/mobil, citgo and all the others out there
when we go to the terminal to load the trucks we have to punch in load numbers in to a computer, this inturn comes up on hte screen with what station we are going to (shell, mobil or whatever)
and you are right gas is gas all 93 is 93 all 89 is 89 but when we load and with the numbers we punch in to come up with the station the computer knows what we have to get so as the gas is flowing into the tanker the additives are injected in to the line
so no there are not 40 different storage tanks at the terminal with different gas in them for everybody (well except for sunoco's 94) but there are different tanks with everybodys additive in them
hope this helps you understand a little bit why you may see a shell tanker one day and the next see a nonamed tanker there but rest assured it is all shell gas going in the ground

 

I wasn't saying we should get our oil from the gulf alluding to the quality of the oil, I was alluding to the fact that we're overrelying on the middle east and not relying on our own potential oil fields

-Mike

 

I guess these guys really don't wanna know about
bidding and buying a "slug" of gas in the pipeline, huh?

It's all good ... Gas is Gas is Gas, until they add the
special stuff.....

Let's get into the Octane definition ... that should drive
everyone nuts.....

 

I used to do XRay inspection of Pipelines I texas so I know a little about the processes but I appreciate the info.

One more comment/question. We have a number of Citgo 7-11's here that advertise 3 prices of gas on the sign like everyone else but they sell 5 or 6 grades of gas- SO - the great price you saw at the bottom of the sign that you thought was 93 was actually 90 or 91 octane. They also only have 2 tanks in the ground.

Making some assumptions then, they have high test tank and 87 tank and they mix the gas in the pump....

I think they sell 87,89,90,91 and 93

Doug

 

yes the gas is mixed in the pump
certian % of each the regular and super will make the others
i know the break down but i dont have it in front of me

and speaking of pipeline you might get a small kick out of this then
their is a pipeline up here that runs about 90miles
from E. Providence R.I. to Springfield Ma.
anyway a few years backa guy tapped into the line with a small hose line or something (oh yeah this is a Exxon/Mobil line) and down in Va. they acctually saw a pressure drop on the computer system and could tell just where it was tapped
they staked out there for a few days and got the guy filling drums
i thought it was the funniest thing

 

P.S. I work for Shell as well and take that with a grain of salt as you read my statements below. This message or any implied action is not endorsed by Shell.

While I don't have any substational data to support this comment (website or other resource), I have been told that the new V-Power is 94 Octane. We have had V-Power available here in New Orleans (trial market testing) since late 2003 at all of the Shell stations. At the time that they kicked off the trial's here, I spoke to several of the Shell Oil Products representatives who stated that V-Power was indeed a 94 Octane gasoline with additional additives (cleaners, stabilizers, etc). V-Power has been around for a while overseas in Europe and Shell has finally introduced it into the US market. The additional cost of $0.10 compared to other 93 octane premium gasolines is supposed to offset the extra cost necessary to process the product and pay for the additional additives. Then again, there were only two refineries in the country at that time that could produce the product, thus the cost could be associated with the batch processing of the V-Power gasoline.

During the release here, they had some photos of engine intake valves before and after the use of Shell V-Power. You could clearly see the difference.

As for V-Power being better than other grades of Premium gasoline, I can not judge that as all I use is Shell gasoline. I can however tell you that there is clearly a difference between when I tank up with Regular (95% of the time) and when I put V-Power in.

Tony
Shell E&P

 

'KY:

You are indeed VERY correct regarding the shizznit-storm of confusion that would follow a scientifically-accurate discussion of "octane rating". I have posted on this very subject a few times in the past (try a search) and made NO headway.

If you can run it without pinging, diesel is your best bet for RWHP. Sunoco 94 (what I run EXCLUSIVELY) is your worst. The payoff is exploiting the knock resistance of higher-octane gasoline (via timing, compression/boost, and A/F) to WAAAAY more than offset the energy content difference.

"SCIENCE MAKES MY HEAD HURT!"

 

Then why wouldnt they label it as 94 ?............its all labeled 93 on the pumps here in Texas ....so its 93.

 

we have Shell's here and I just filled up today with the "v-power" and it was only 91 octane. That is the highest you can get around these parts unfortunately. If I want to take the truck out to the track, I always get 6 gallons of 104 race gas.

It was at $2.08 a gallon too!!

 

I would love to see those pics. I like Shell gas, more than anything else because I get Premium for the price of Regular on Tuesdays. But I think I would run it anyway, never had any detonation or problems out of it. Let me know if I can get a look at those pics. ixcler8@hotmail.com

Matt

 

I don`t know if this makes since or not, but ive been using shell gas only in my truck for the past year, my gas mileage was fair considering the way I drive my truck, I went to fill up last week and all the shell stations around here wanted 2.50 - 2.70 a gallon, im thinking screw that and went down the street to one of those little hole in the wall mom and pop stations and filled because it was cheaper, I have no idea what brand of gas they sell there but after a few days of driving around I noticed I was getting better gas mileage with the different gas. I don`t know if all the additives in the gas take away from your gas mileage or not but it makes you wonder ?.