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Old Jul 11, 2004 | 08:07 PM
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Originally posted by Griffey
... everyone who races that class are JDM nuthuggers ...
SPIIIIITTTTTT

How am I gonna get all that beer offa my monitor !!!

That is the funniest thing I've seen in 3 years !!!
 
Old Jul 11, 2004 | 08:30 PM
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Originally posted by SVT_KY
SPIIIIITTTTTT

How am I gonna get all that beer offa my monitor !!!

That is the funniest thing I've seen in 3 years !!!
Ice tea for me Cliff.

Funny part is that I dont care if its JDM,JLP,PSP,REM,OP,JJ or anyone else's trucks, its just damn boring to see fast trucks go slow, and thats from a spectators side of the fence, not the racers side. When are you going to get that thru your thick heads guys? Its just damn Boring.

The bug up my crawl comes from reading this board and every thread about 10 sec Lightnings says "we have the most" blah blah blah, yet they dont run anywhere near that time at a race. Just so happens it only JDM that says that. go figure.

I'll believe it when I see it in person at a "race".

Later...

Bruce
 
Old Jul 11, 2004 | 08:31 PM
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VINNEY!!! Why don't you say what you really think. LMAO
 
Old Jul 11, 2004 | 08:38 PM
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Hey now some guys hang off JDMs nuts and other in this thread need to pull there heads out of JLP's cornhole. This board has cheerleaders of all sorts, the guys who have stuck up for JDM in this thread arent hanging off his nuts. They are speaking the truth, a car that is running to its top potential is not consistant. If you look at any of the bracket class at any track, the fastest cars never win. Its always some slow 4 banger or 6 cylinder. If you look at Mod Motor the last 5 years, the fastest car has never won a Championship or a race. The fast cars or trucks in this case, are running at the edge, if they dont break they run between 2 and 5 tenths off their dial in. This isnt heads up, its bracket racing, the fastests cars are always out in the 1st few rounds.
 
Old Jul 11, 2004 | 09:03 PM
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Originally posted by Black 2000


Funny part is that I dont care if its JDM,JLP,PSP,REM,OP,JJ or anyone else's trucks, its just damn boring to see fast trucks go slow, and thats from a spectators side of the fence, not the racers side. When are you going to get that thru your thick heads guys? Its just damn Boring.
Now that I can live with and agree with as well.It is boring unless you race in that particular class or have some kind of other interest in who wins or loses.I never watch the mod motor or any other bracket class.I don't know any of the guys that run those classes so I don't care who wins/loses or even how fast they run.

The reason I run the tough truck class when able is #1 To win plain and simple.The best chance you have of doing that in this "style" of racing is to sandbag.I could care less who I am boring out in the stands.
 
Old Jul 11, 2004 | 09:05 PM
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Maybe what we really need is a heads up shootout sometime.
 
Old Jul 11, 2004 | 09:29 PM
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Originally posted by Black 2000
When are you going to get that thru your thick heads guys? Its just damn Boring.

The bug up my crawl comes from reading this board and every thread about 10 sec Lightnings says "we have the most" blah blah blah, yet they dont run anywhere near that time at a race. Just so happens it only JDM that says that. go figure.
I'm sure if you were willing to pay these guys entry fees and expenses then they would be glad to run all out. Believe it or not, it costs alot of $$$ to compete in these events. These guys are trying to win money and points so what's wrong with dialing it back to be consistent?

There are also guys like Vinnie that don't have the proper safety equipment installed to run those times legally in a sanctioned event. Just because he chooses not to run a 10 every time out doesn't mean his truck can't do it.

If you want to see these trucks run to their full potential then show up at a test n tune or unsanctioned event where points and $$$ aren't involved and I'm sure they'll be willing to show you their tail lights all night.

There are a sh!+ load of cars that bracket race for a living that are plenty capable of running faster than they do. They don't because they find a "sweet spot" in their tuning that makes them consistent and they use it to their advantage.

I suggest that you actually spend some time and money bracket racing and see how long you last running wide open every pass. Then if you succeed, come back here and we'll all bow down to you and tell you how right you are. We can all be Black2000 nuthuggers.
 
Old Jul 11, 2004 | 09:46 PM
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Originally posted by Black 2000


Dont worry Cobra, the only guys that will come into this thread and tell you that your full of ***** are the same guys that have no

I'd rather see a show when I go to the races wouldnt you?

Sorry JDM cheerleaders, but its freakin boring to watch "the most 10 second daily driven trucks" run high 11's or low 12's, even when the conditions are ripe for great runs.

I'll say it again, if your truck can run 10.50's all day long, why not dial it back to 10.90's and be consistant?

Its because non of the "most 10 second daily driven L's" can run consistant 10.50's. NUFF SAID

Later...

Bruce
I am not a JDM cheerleader......I run JL parts.... and I agree with them..... I don't run ***** out bracket racing..... I dial it down a bit....... thats the smart thing to do.......not to run ***** out so you can spin in the final and lose the race......
makes the truck way more consistent(SP?)..........



what does your truck run again??? 14's??????????
 
Old Jul 11, 2004 | 09:49 PM
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Originally posted by Black 2000
Ice tea for me Cliff.

Funny part is that I dont care if its JDM,JLP,PSP,REM,OP,JJ or anyone else's trucks, its just damn boring to see fast trucks go slow, and thats from a spectators side of the fence, not the racers side. When are you going to get that thru your thick heads guys? Its just damn Boring.

then don't go watch!!!!!!!!!!
 
Old Jul 11, 2004 | 10:04 PM
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Originally posted by SVT_KY
Maybe what we really need is a heads up shootout sometime.
Exactly - Put together a head up class and see what the folks with the great ETs can do ....

This has been covered SO many times but here goes ....
Bracket racing with these rules -
Bracket style, Full (.500) Sportsman Tree, handicap start eliminations. One tenth (1/10) breakout cushion in effect. ~snip~
All-run field, minimum of one (1) qualifying pass mandatory.
where you qualify one or 2 days before the eliminations AND where you have to hot lap the quarters and semi's means that you have to leave a BUNCH in the bag. Its gives people whos truck runs near the
Minimum of 15.99 elapsed time required for qualification.
a channce to win...

Want to see heads up come to Lightning fest there is a heads up class there or watch the Pro 5.0 guys race -

Doug
 
Old Jul 12, 2004 | 08:50 AM
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Originally posted by Silver_2000_!
Exactly - Put together a head up class and see what the folks with the great ETs can do ....

This has been covered SO many times but here goes ....
Bracket racing with these rules -


where you qualify one or 2 days before the eliminations AND where you have to hot lap the quarters and semi's means that you have to leave a BUNCH in the bag. Its gives people whos truck runs near the a channce to win...

Want to see heads up come to Lightning fest there is a heads up class there or watch the Pro 5.0 guys race -

Doug


Later...

Bruce
 
Old Jul 12, 2004 | 09:59 AM
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Oh **** - I think that I agreed with both SVT_KY and Black 2000 in the same thread .... Now Im sure Im going to hell......
 
Old Jul 12, 2004 | 10:58 AM
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Hahahaaaa, thats too funny.

I kind of agree though....it would be AWSOME to see some heads up, king of the hill, top dog racing....but this class is not the place for it. Its like going to a profesional boxing match and yelling "kick him in the jimmy!"

The fact remains that TT is about running a consistant number, we are not there for your entertainment, its about OUR entertainment!
 
Old Jul 12, 2004 | 11:03 AM
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Oh **** - I think that I agreed with both SVT_KY and Black 2000 in the same thread ....
whats next Doug ???

Originally posted by Silver_2000_!
JJ is welcome to say anything he wants, anytime he wants.

Oh Ya,
FU V,
FU Gator,
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Old Jul 12, 2004 | 11:55 AM
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Originally posted by 93Cobra
I still do not agree with that methodology. It should be running consistent on your best tune. With what they do today, that leads me to believe that they have no confidence in their race programming, or engine build. These trucks can be run consistent at any power range. De-tuning and making the trucks run slower only lessens the chances that I, or anyone else would be inclined to buy parts from them. The Lightning class was a joke, but watching the Mustangs in the Quick Ford class, and True Street class was so much better..... those guys ran ALL OUT.
So why didn't you bring your truck and run it the way you think you ought to? You live close enough that you could have entered for the cost of entry and race fuel (if you even need it in your truck). If you raced the class once, you might come away with a different perspective on the strategy it takes to compete in it.
I don't have a cage in my truck, so at most tracks I'm limited to a 12.00 ET. My truck is detuned to that cutoff. My first 4 runs at Norwalk ranged between 12.14 and 12.18, which is the type of consistency needed for this type of racing. My dial-in for elimanations was a 12.04. The weather did get progressively worse throughout the course of the weekend (which seems to happen at a lot of these events). My truck slowed down more than 0.20 secs just between the Gallop for the Gold run mid morning (11.93 with weight removal only from previous runs), and the first round of eliminations in early afternoon (back to 12.14). So, I added more boost, and ended up getting taken out by the points leader in the second round on a double breakout (11.90 taking the stripe on the brakes).
I drove my Lightning 335 miles to get there, which is still a relatively short distance compared to many of the other Lightning guys that attended. It cost me about $700 for fuel, lodging, and race fees for the weekend. I didn't win anything, but it was worth every penny. I enjoyed a weekend of thrills, and the camaraderie of guys I have raced with many times before. That's what it is all about for me. Try it sometime, you might like it.

Black 2000 - I totally agree with Griffey in regards to you and your comments regarding JDM.


Lightning Bob
 



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