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Old May 21, 2004 | 03:06 PM
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All of highpower products are designed to be easy to work with and upgradable(not swapped out) if we come up with something better.

The progressives, especially the Minimax is very user friendly as everything you need is on screen and the wiring is independent of anything else in the vehicle. All you need for a kit and progressive is a power wire(from the battery preferably) and the rest just connects to itself. We don't even need a relay which simplifies wiring.
 
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Old May 21, 2004 | 03:16 PM
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Again Mistergadget, everything is explained on our site if you want to learn about progressive systems.

As far as numerous vendors go, this is something we would have to consider later on. I like working closely with customers as I know how to help them and do things right. We're not happy with satisfactory performance. If a shop sells all kinds of products and just does nitrous installs once in a while, then I feel they aren't giving the customer the help and knowledge they need for the best nitrous set-up. This is why I am targeting specialist tuners that I can work with and make sure customers get the best set-up as possible. The same basics and guidelines people are used to are not what we do, so tuners need to re-think things.
 
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Old May 21, 2004 | 03:21 PM
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I'm as excited as ?
Gator in a Grammer School Girls Locker Room
 
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Old May 21, 2004 | 03:21 PM
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I just inquired about being a vendor, so I hope this calms some people down. I didn't realize it was such a huge issue as we welcome people to advertise on the highpower board as long as it's not another nitrous company.
 
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Old May 21, 2004 | 03:55 PM
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Denny, do you think by sept 1st a proven setup (on a stock internal motor) would be available?

Rich
 
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Old May 21, 2004 | 04:10 PM
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Originally posted by racetested
I just inquired about being a vendor, so I hope this calms
some people down. I didn't realize it was such a huge issue as
we welcome people to advertise on the highpower board as long
as it's not another nitrous company.
Not around here ... the vendor police will shut you down.

If it was up to these guys, we would all be still driving
horse and buggies ...

Don't let the a$$hats get you down ... Genius and innovation
go hand in hand ...

 
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Old May 21, 2004 | 04:38 PM
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Rich,
If I had an L available to me I would have proven results by June first. Our kits are proven in general and we don't need to make anything special as the same kit will work fine on 99% of applications. Everything now depends on how quickly Rob, Sal, etc. put a kit on and do some testing with different jetting and progressive settings. It will help to have a consistant driver and track times also. As far as having the best hp and torque, we don't care. Those are reserved for dyno queens. We are concerned about track times.

SVT_KY,
Good One!
 
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Old May 21, 2004 | 04:42 PM
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Those are reserved for dyno queens. We are concerned about track times.
I agree and am awaiting your results.

Rich
 
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Old May 21, 2004 | 06:32 PM
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if everyone will remember how skeptical we all were when APTEN introduced their ported Eaton Blower and look at how successful that was. (that was in November of 2003) By January there was a group buy.

Give this guy a few weeks to throw everything together and work out the bugs. We can only benefit from his input and research, we have nothing to lose, so let him do his stuff.
I never really considered Nitrous on my stock block, however this was a very educational thread. thank you.

 
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Old May 21, 2004 | 06:53 PM
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I've seen a 5.0L stang nitrous setup where the only detriment was the rod bearings getting wore out a bit quicker. Had over 150k on it spraying the whole time!

If it's done right? Longevity can be attained.

Rich
 
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Old May 21, 2004 | 11:04 PM
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I was reading up on the FAQs on the Highpower website and came across this interesting bit of information...

"The following are some examples of our customers 1/4 mile performances:

Our fastest car customer is Pat Musi (USA)who runs under 7secs for the 1/4 mile in is awesome Pro street car in the USA."


Now if that's not a high profile client for a nitrous company then I don't know what is. *Getting a little more interested in this system* Still would like to see a system on a L though before I draw any conclusions...hurry up Rob
 
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Old May 22, 2004 | 12:30 AM
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Originally posted by RollinLimp2001
I was reading up on the FAQs on the Highpower website and came across this interesting bit of information...

"The following are some examples of our customers 1/4 mile performances:

Our fastest car customer is Pat Musi (USA)who runs under 7secs for the 1/4 mile in is awesome Pro street car in the USA."


Now if that's not a high profile client for a nitrous company then I don't know what is. *Getting a little more interested in this system* Still would like to see a system on a L though before I draw any conclusions...hurry up Rob
Musi must have done some testing for HighPower products in the past, but he does not race with their nitrous system. Pat Musi Racing Engines is a distributor for NOS brand products, and all his nitrous racing engines he sells come plumbed with NOS nitrous. Also, in January Musi went to work for Edelbrock as the chief engineer of their new Edelbrock nitrous systems, and he now uses those systems on his famous 6 second pro street cars. That blurb on the HighPower site must be really old news.
 
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Old May 22, 2004 | 12:52 AM
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The Pat Musi thing is old news and the Highpower site does need updating. Quick story is the mechanics of Pat were testing the Maximiser and mounted it right on top of the ignition box. Well there were frequency and signal problems because of this and the Maximiser didn't work right. Trev corrected this problem even though no one should be mounting another electronic device on top of an ignition box. Pat got a bug up his *** though and lost interest. This was years ago and Trev has moved on to a better person to work with anyway. Johnny Barb is now our Pro Mod guy that is shooting for the world record. Unfortunately Johnny is an independent with a budget and has had problems with his engine builder of 20 years. Johnny has found a new builder this past week and can now update his 7 year old mule motor to his all billet block motor and have a quality build to work with. I believe Johnny has run a few low 4's in the 1/8th and low to mid 6's in the 1/4. This was only using 70% of the nitrous power.

Here is his car if you haven't seen it.
http://www.racetested.com/rt/gallery...af43605d30f4e7
 

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Old May 22, 2004 | 07:09 AM
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Me and Denny are working out the Final Details now,
I will be installing a Race Tested i150 System shortly,

Street-blaster 150i is the highest quality Nitrous system in the world. It is also the simplest system to install and is the only system designed to fit a standard street car without any additional major modifications. The system is supplied with all the parts needed including our superior N20 and Fuel solenoids, a full 10lb alloy Nitrous cylinder (with brackets), a single Cross-Fire Injector, all pipes fittings and switches, plus simple and easy to follow instructions for the simplest quickest installation possible. This system has the potential to increase the power of your car up to 150 horsepower.

Specs:

1 pair of Solenoids 150bhp( Most important part of any system)
Billet Aluminum Housing
Cooler running with more reliability
Stunning high luster anodized and color coded finish
Optimum port location for greater flow & maximum power to size ratio
Matched Hi-tech thermo plastic seat and plunger seal for ZERO wear
Weight saving of up to 75% over other brands
Lower friction bore equals less wear
Adjustable seat height to minimize lift for optimum response to PW
Our rapid response coil for instant reaction to pulse width modulation, essential for progressive power
Parts:

Jets (range per application)
Throttle Microswitch w/ bracket (we not using this)
20 ft. of 5mm nylon N2O supply line
Fuel solenoid supply pipe
Fuel solenoid to injector pipe
Fuel supply adapter (per application)
Pipe nuts and olives
Xfire Injector (spacer & retainers)
Arming Switch w/ aircraft style cover
Electrical connectors & wire pack
Fitting, Instructions, Brochure & Stickers
Wet nitrous kit for fuel injected motors utilizing very advanced, reliable, and proven SOLENOIDS with LIFETIME WARRANTY.


We will also be using his Mini-Max progressive nitrous control unit,


The Mini-Max:

Progressive nitrous control unit.
Vital for achieving maximum power, acceleration, reliability and gas economy.
More than doubles the "useable" power increase of a basic system
Allows "in-car" adjustability of the start power level, power delivery rate and has 2 reset options.
Instead of a sudden power increase, the power increase starts at your choice of power level between 30 & 60% and rises to full power over an amount of time that you can adjust between 2 - 10 secs. You then have the option to reset the build up after gear changes or come back in at the same power level you were at before you changed gear.


Features:

30 to 60% start power level.
100% full power level.
2 to 10 secs build up time from start to full power.
Reset option ( On - Off )
Twin 7 segment display
Simple 2 button adjustment

We will also be using a TPS activation

Replaces microswitch for drive by wire systems or upgrade from a microswitch on cable linkage systems. Activates nitrous system by reading throttle position angle on factory TPS. Can be adjusted to read below WOT and WOT angle.


I'm very excited and can't wait to try it, with the Digital Controller I'll be able to launch this sucker even on the street "on street tires", and then have the Juice kick in at what ever level I choice and then make the same decision after switching a gear .

WOO HOO, I love it already...... At the track I can have the same option, and believe we'll see many advantages with this control over the unit.

This system will have much safety built into it with the Mini-Max,
and hopefully save my motor while going for some niiiiiiiiice numbers.......

As fast as Denny can ship one to me, IT'LL BE ON AND TESTED!!!

YA BABY.........


And for the nosey people (NO I AM NOT GETTING IT FOR FREE)
But Race Tested IS taken care of me

THANKS RACE TESTED........
 
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Old May 22, 2004 | 09:27 AM
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I'll also be working with Denny on an 03-04 Cobra kit. I've had some past experience with N20 kits on my Lightning, so it will be a smooth transition to the Cobra. I plan on proving this kit out on the Cobra in two ways. First will be a small shot(50hp) to cool down the intake charge on the Eaton blower. This will be great for daily drivers who want a little extra shot of power here and there. Secondly, we will run a 100-150 shot at the track. Hopefully this will take a stock Cobra w/ bolt on's into the 10's and a Lighting w/ bolt on's into mid 11's or better.
My goal is to do this as safely, easily, and efficiently as possible. I think that will make this kit shine above and beyond the others.
 
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