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HELP! FTVB Install Trouble

Old Apr 27, 2004 | 08:59 PM
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Please do not hate on those of us who are HARDER than the rest of you!! Next thing you know-you will say that we are lying about our size too!! BTW-MY FTVB IS THE GREATEST MOD EVER!! I LOVE IT! (the truck and I both hit hard and leave marks!!)
 
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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 09:24 PM
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What about mileage? Do you think higher mileage might decrease the shift firmness? I've got 19,000 and get a mild to medium shift.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 09:37 PM
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I think we forget about some of the things that can effect our transmissions during the shift cycle, day in and day out, and more important from one truck to another!....

Aside from tuning and mods,, air temp.,fluid temp, mileage and type of driving on tranny and drive train during that mileage, tire condition and size, rim size AND weight! fluid and filter condition. You could list lots more that could effect transmission and drivetrain performance during a shift cycle.............but I think we all have a little diff. driving habit,,, that accounts for alot of these "comments" on shift quality.. I have heard the same "comments" made between owners of other performance vehicles which are identical!!

We need to remember our vehicles "remember" our driving habbits and tendencies,, I say try the battery disconnect procedure,, also it would be interesting to hear mileage on those that are having this "problem" It would just be good info for all!
 
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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 09:49 PM
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I don't think you could be more wrong. In my experience with 2 different tuners after the FTVB, tuners tend to turn the line pressure down when you tell them you have a VB. For me, only upon request did they change the line pressure, and with both tuners, each time they only raised line pressure to stock line pressure.

I am running the same valve body as my buddy, tuned by the same tuner, and similar (not exact) mods. Our two trucks shift COMPLETELY different. I have driven both, and he has driven both. If you want to pretend that people exaggerate to make your own experience seem better.... so be it. But IMO, these valve bodies should shift Hard! (Like many people here claim they do, and most likely do). A few of us are just trying to figure out why ours aren't shifting properly.

If you have any ideas, they would be appreciated.

Thanks, Aaron
When I got my chip back the first time, my truck shifted so hard it would chatter your teeth and it would indeed break second loose. That's retarded. I'm beating up my tranny and tires all for the sake of saying that I can break second loose. It serves absolutely no purpose from a performance standpoint. I don't understand why people brag about smoking second gear, if I wanted to do that I would do a freakin' burnout through second, when I am on the throttle racing I don't want to break my wheels loose.

My tuner drove my truck and said "jesus christ this thing shifts hard" so he played with it, adjusted the shift duration, and so forth to get my truck where it should be. It's not only line pressure and torque reduction, there are more than one variable in the PCM that affect shifting.

My truck shifts easier now with more HP and torque, and I'm happy.

If you have a chip, ask your tuner to make it shift harder, if it's stock then it should shift firm, but not hard. I fail to see where I was "completely wrong" but then again what do I know, you were only the one asking the question and I tried to provide you an answer, obviously it was not the one you wanted to hear....sorry, no miracle answers today, I'm all out
 
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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 09:52 PM
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I have been seriously contemplating getting a FTVB mainly because everything I read about it has stated it is much better for transmission life, less slippage equals less heat which equals less wear on the transmission.

The one thing that has held me back is when I hear some people stating that it shifts very hard between shifts, or slams. I am no expert when it comes to the drive train but my thinking is “hard” or “slamming” shifts must affect the drive train in a bad way, would that not be correct? Would hard or slamming shifts not affect the u-joints and/or the differential?

I want to get one if it will produce no more then very crisp shifts without the “hard” or “slamming” I have read about before. I want it mainly as a “preventive” maintenance item to extend the life of the transmission AND not affect the drive train in a negative way.

From everything I have read, regardless if it is crisp shifts, hard or slamming it adds no horsepower or torque so why would a hard or slamming shift be beneficial? Just looking for an education and hoping to hear that most people do NOT experience a hard or slamming shift.

*** Something I forgot to add is I have no plans of getting my L chipped, tuned or having the torque reduction turned off…
 
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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 09:55 PM
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You will get exactly what you want, it's a great product.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 10:10 PM
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Wave Blaster,

I originally thought you meant that when you told your tuner you had an FTVB, they cranked up the line pressure. I re-read your post and realized you probably meant the users crank up the line pressure. Sorry. My bad.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 10:11 PM
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Wave Blaster,

I originally thought you meant that when you told your tuner you had an FTVB, they cranked up the line pressure. I re-read your post and realized you probably meant the users crank up the line pressure. Sorry. My bad.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 07:09 AM
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As waveblaster785 stated,,,, thats what you will get!! The shifts happen in a "shorter" or "quicker" time frame.. (that is,,, the time the trans. is actually going from one gear to the next or is between shifts, you could call it neutral to clearify the "event") this reduces the "slip" within the tranny and extends life... I say do it you will get ALL you want from it!!!! Goodluck

Jon
 
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 11:21 AM
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Thanks for the information. So what your saying is for someone like myself with a stock L putting the FTVB will not cause “hard” or “slamming” shifts I have read about before but rather just firm them up and less stress on the transmission?
 
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 03:59 PM
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I will go out on a limb here and say my L is pretty stock. with the FTVB I get a 2-3 and 3-4 shift that made my wife ask "WTF WAS THAT!" Its not super hard, but you can feel it really well. I love the shifts like that, just wish 1-2 was like 2-3 or 3-4. If you end up with shifts like I have, I think you will be a happy camper.

Chris
 
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 04:54 PM
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yes you are correct.....If it helps I have put many of these units in stock Harley, L's and powerstroke D's (they are awesome for tow vehicles!) I feel the most important thing is to keep ALL transmission parameters STOCK,, if for no other reason than,, Gregg set these (2c) units up using stock parameters when he designed them, so I feel it makes sense to go with that!! BUT Gregg can ( and will) set them up anyway you want!!!!!


Jon
 
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 06:05 PM
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For some odd reason my truck likes to miss 2nd gear only after I make a left hand turn. After I accelerate a little more (around 2500 rpms) it then shifts. It feels exactly like if you were to miss a gear upshifting in a manual vehicle. I have checked my trans fluid HOT -it is halfway on the "running hot" dip stick. I have the moroso trans pan which required me to put in 7 1/2 quarts of fluid. Any Idea's?
John
*sorry to hijack the thread with my problem
 
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 06:35 PM
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jgstang67, I would like to thank you.

I was out putting my stock VB back on (L going in tomarrow for nasty oil leak, probably head gasket) ans while I was at it, I pulled off the negative battery cable. When it was back together I took it for a spin. Now I dont know if its the stock VB, the 73 degree weather, or the computer reset, but I now have a much firmer 1-2 shift. Its still not putting rubber down, but it is MUCH better than it was. To bad between the increase in temp and the switch back to stock VB I feel like I lost about 20 horse, but the shift is much better. Hopefully once I get the truck back from the shop (and hopefully with warrenty intact), I can get the VB back on, pull the battery cable again and see if it will shift harder.

Anyone not seeing the shifts they want should try the computer reset, it might just work.

Chris
 
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 07:44 PM
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Thanks A LOT for the information…

I am feeling a lot more confident about purchasing a FTVB. Might do so in the next few weeks. Here is a question for you all, how long should I wait to install it? I have just about 1,000 miles on the truck so should I wait for a while? If so when is a good time to put the FTVB in, at what mileage?
 
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