Im looking at getting an ECU Reflash through LFP. As I understand it, the computer is completely reflashed and will "learn" new mods and environmental factors and compensate for them. It is supposed to be the perfect tune. This would be a huge benefit in Houston weather. Has anyone tried this? Will it increase the power outputs of things like pullies like a chip does? I'm going to have a 4# lower, 2# upper, LT's and high flow mid pipes with a custom cat back, and LFP high flow air filter, on a stock block. Anyone done anything similar? What kind of results did you see? Thanks in advance.

 

Why not just get a Predator? It is a reflash and it has a datalogger and scan tool all built in.
Or better yet get one of the SCT tuner things and a custom tune. Then you would have to software to reflash your pcm as many times as you want and adjust the tune how you see fit.

 

Easter - This reflash is supposed to be "the perfect tune." Where you dont have to worry about too much/little timing or things like warm/cold weather programs. How does this compare to the predator?

 

I thought a predator flashes the computer? Maybe I'm wrong. I think all the people do who flash the computer is stick a tune on the hardware w/o a chip...

 

Here is some info about "the perfect tune": https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...sh#post1005519

You know, If I lived in Houston I would practically be living with Andre. Why don't you talk with him about mods for your truck? He is like Sal, except he lives in Houston or something! And that club (HALO) holy crap! You Houston guys are spoiled rotten! Take advantage man!

--Steele

 

I also thought the Predator reflashed the ECU am I wrong? If it does this would be the better way to go in my opinion as you have a scan tool and can make minor adjustments to your tune if you like.

 

Yea I understand with the Predator you can go in and make adjustments to your liking . . .with this reflash though, from what i've read, it makes the adjustments on its own. It compensates a/f and timing when mods/ weather conditions change so that it stays consistent to what it was made to do. (ex: adds or takes away fuel based on weather conditions to stay at, or around, a 12.0 if that is what it is "programmed" to do)

 

The predator is a reflash of the pcm. You cannot, "go in and make adjustments to your liking" The Predator is not designed to make whatever changes you want. There is a limit to the parameters you can access and what changes you can make.

 

So you can't go in and add/remove timing or fuel if you feel it needs it? If not, then what would be the advantage of it over a reflash? Just being able to put custom tunes from the tuners into them? The advantage to this would be, being able to change the tune whenever a new mod was added, and not haveing to pay for it, I'm assuming. You dont have to pay for the tuner to email you the new tunes do you? Is that how it works? I have'nt read up on the predator so I'm not real informed about everything you can do on it. I just want to know what the safest way to get the most power would be.

 

With a reflash, if it is programmed for 4# of additional boost, and you add another 3# with a ported blower, will the ecu compensate for this on its own, or is it only up to a certain boost level that it compensates? Like people are saying it will compensate from stock up to 15#. So in theory, if it is calibrated for 14# of boost, will it compensate up to 21# on its own? Or is it just up to 15#. (Im not saying I'm going to try to run 21# of boost, just asking if this is how it works.)
The predator is a reflash, but a reflash of a set tune, correct? or no? It will not compensate like the "reflash" will for added boost/changing weather conditions right?

 

I just read some of that 13 page thread, and it's scary how much incorrect information is in it.

I can reflash an EEC, use a flash tool, or burn a chip. All of the talk about adaptive wot strategy, and other intuitive features of a flash is simply incorrect. There is only 4 banks of data (224K), and you can get those same 4 banks thru a chip or a reflash.

Brian

 

Brian,

I worked in Ford calibration Powertrain for ten years. Care to clarify what information is wrong. Let me be clear. The person doing the reflash is a person that works with,writes the stategy and is a veteran calibrator who has been around since Ford introduced EFI under their hoods.

If you read what I said. The Ford programmer having access to the software can do more than the tuners can. That inclues modifying the strategy and adding to the stock peramiters values. He has access to strategy and calibration books that would be like gold in the hands of tuners.

Adaptive strategy can work based off using the MAF. It's working for people I know. I'll put it up against any tuner here.

 

You can lead a horse to water...

I've done what I can. Good luck to you bro.

--Steele

 

Steele, you mean to ask Andre? I know most of the guys over on HALO haven't done the reflash. Most are set on either superchip or autologic, that's it. Very few of them even have the predator. I could ask them, but I figured I'd ask the whole country instead of one city. They are a great group of people who have answered a bunch of questions for me. I know on this subject though, the more people to ask, the better.
Also that thread you posted had good info up until about the 3rd post, then people start calling each other names and not asnwering any questions. I'd rather not read through all the bs and just get my questions answered in a new thread.

 

The link I posted was a direct link to Sals post on the subject. Personally I think its the only post in that thread worth reading.

Yes, I think you should consult with Andre on this subject. If you have questions about the predator then do a search on this forum for Sal's posts on the subject or talk to him directly. The questions have already been asked and answered by reputalbe sources -- which in my mind is the only thing that counts. I really couldn't care less what joe blow has to say.

--Steele