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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 11:50 AM
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t56 conversion??

HAs anyone done a T56 conversion in their L? i like the auto.. but i'd much rather have a manual..is there any info out there at all.?? Thanks in advance


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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 12:03 PM
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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 12:05 PM
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uhm.. ok... anyone else??
 
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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 12:59 PM
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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 01:00 PM
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yeah i think the general consensus is:

a) you probably couldn't do it if you wanted to
b) if you actually did do it, you would be doing it again cause it probably won't last long
c)you probably don't wanna do it anyway, torque rules.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 02:46 PM
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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 03:18 PM
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I have read all the old posts about it, which all contain excellent cautionary information) and I still want to do it! It is my first major mod when I get out of school and get a real job.

I had a very quick conversation with D&D. They have a 550 lb.ft. version(I believe it is closer to the Viper part than the Mustang of Camaro part) for about $2400 brand new. I believe that Lakewood has a bellhousing that will adapt the the 5.4 block to the T56. There are also plenty of strong clutches and flywheels out there for the modular crowd.

I had two questions/pitfalls.

1) Don't know whether the crank is bored for a pilot bearing. It may not be, but it's not a show stopper if it isn't.

2) People have said that the computer and the tranny are very well connected and depend on eachother. Maybe the tuners have learned more about the computer since those older posts were made. Is this insurmountable? I hope some of the tuners can chime in. Can you tailor an ECU to be happy with manual trans?

I am happy this thread has come up again. I can't wait to have a T56 in my L.

Randy
 
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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 03:26 PM
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Sure it can be done. Just a matter of cubic dollars. Probably easier to go DFI rather than screwing with the stock ECU. Linkage won't be fun. Going to take a long shifter to make it accessable. Won't have a nice short throw like on the Cobra or Cobra-R.

You may not like the end result as much as you want to.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 03:48 PM
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I really hate to draw a similarity to the SRT-10.......but it uses a T56, similar amount of torque, weight, traction. I would like to hear some feedback on the SRT's shifter. Has anyone driven one yet?
 
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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 03:53 PM
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Originally posted by desertL2001
I really hate to draw a similarity to the SRT-10.......but it uses a T56, similar amount of torque, weight, traction. I would like to hear some feedback on the SRT's shifter. Has anyone driven one yet?
I don't think anyone has the access to drive one of them.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 05:01 PM
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https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...hreadid=133146
 
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Old Nov 26, 2003 | 12:22 AM
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HAs anyone done a T56 conversion in their L? i like the auto.. but i'd much rather have a manual..is there any info out there at all.?? Thanks in advance
It's pretty hard to beat the launch that you can get with an automatic. The torque increase is also a huge plus when launching or towing.

The Lightning 4R100 is one of the most efficient automatic transmissions built. Transmission losses amount to about 11% according to the stuff Gregg Evans has posted. That is amazing for an automatic.

More importantly you would completely destroy the value of your L. The resale would drop significantly unless you happen to find someone who really wanted that exact modification.

Shift throw is another issue. It would be long and (I would guess) sloppy.

Have you ever driven a standard shift truck? It isn't as much fun as driving a standard shift car (at least I don't think so). There is so much more weight to get moving that driving becomes a chore.

If you were going to do road course racing, then the extra control might be worth it, but short of that, I doubt it.

The worst problem would probably be your clutch life though. Get a Monster Box and never worry about your transmission again. Put a 5 or 6 speed in and you will probably have to change your clutch on a regular basis (I do not know how hard you drive).

Just my 2 cents.

-Don
 
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Old Nov 26, 2003 | 12:34 AM
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I think trying to find gears with that big a$$ shifter would take away the fun of having a manual.
 
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Old Nov 26, 2003 | 07:02 AM
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it can be done. but why. long throw sucks especially for racing
 
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Old Nov 26, 2003 | 10:24 AM
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Bad idea - why bother.
Come up with paddle shift on the steering wheel, and you may have something
 
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