Ya i admit i love threads like this.

A few comments for the public forum.

Ill try not to do any direct bashing on this topic however its just so damn easy.

First,Dont you think its unususal that there is only like one new board member really sticking up for jim on this? i rmember when there was always a large JDM defense Team.He doesnt know it yet because he has yet to have a bad (enough) experience with the good ol ways of Jims .Hello mike,Dont take this personal but you have alot to learn about JDM.

Ive been here since the beginning of time and have seen it all so no one on here can valadate things like i can.I have seen Lies after Lies after Lies come from JDM first hand and second hand.
throttlebody
pullys,
blowers
COMPLETE 2 YEAR ENGINE JOBS
I ve heard of all the times he has taken your credit card,charged it while on the phone saying it will be sent out today and the part doesnt arrive for 6 months if ever.With only LIES and excuses on why it didnt go out in the first place.
Its all printed here in black and white thoughout the last 4 years but more importantly,I know MANY people persnally that have gone through the lies.the most notorious thing ive witness personally on a number of occasions is Jim either not standing by his prices or completley RAPING customers of big bucks by handing them OUTRAGOUS BILLS without warning.These things have happened OVER AND OVER.

I agree,JDM does have a large gathering who stick by him thick or thin.Heres the funniest thing about that.Its getting thinner through time.....I cannot say who cause i dont want to upset their relationship with Jim but the same people that come on this site and say jim can do no wrong have been screwed over so much its not even funny.They are the first ones to tell you something in secret but make you promise not to type it cause they are worried Jim will just write them off when they have 20-30k invested with Jim in their trucks.They know who they are and Ive said it before,i cannot respect that.HONESTY is the most important part of a business and its the thing that is most lacking with JDM.His products are great but what good are they when you dont get them and all you get is a credit card bill.

On a side not,Personally id be willing to bet there are a few lightnings up here in NE that dont have the internals that were said they have.Do you really think this cam job is a one time thing??I doubt it.

For all you JDM lovers! ,Do you think its just a coincidence that the only real complaints to a tuner on this board are directed at JDM????????WAKE UP TO REALITY. PSP,JL.Chickenears,BOP,FTVB dont have thse threads OVER AND OVER.Dont you realize why?? Cause these complaits KEEP HAPPENING.Its been along time anyone has had a real bad experience with the other major tuners.

All i can say is BUYER BEWARE.

2002 Lightning
And yes,It is tuned by JDM and I like the chip.It runs 12.60s with just a chip/pully.and my plugs look like the program is running safe.I am a happy JDM customer with what i have bought(for the most part) So I have no axe to grind.Im just a HONEST business owner myself and I know its sometimes hard to please everybody.The problem is you need to start with HONESTY and INTEGRITY and the rest will follow.Those are the two things JDM is lacking.

2002
Tuned by JDM
12.60@106

 

Man I didnt know this was gonna come down this soon! Nick is one of my best friends. I was roomates with him during the time of this whole deal. Personally I have known Nick awhile longer than I have known Jim. Nick is the type of person that would give you the shirt of his back if he knew you needed it. He dosent mind spending the cash on his truck and I think that Jim sensed that and took the spending to extremes. I have been a Superchips/JDM distributor as well as a JDM customer for over 2 years now. My partner and I sold well over 30k of Jims parts and services. He has done quite a bit of stuff for me without charging me and has always been good to me. I refered JDM to my bud Nick when he wanted to go with camshafts/KB/ and dynotune because I believed in JDM. I have heard stories in the past about JDM and Jim lying to people but I just didnt believe it. Seeing Nicks situation first hand has force me to go elsewhere for tuning/parts for my Lightning as well as all my Middle Tennessee cusomers that I have gotten over the years. I just dont understand Jim. Hes a helluva tuner/engineer. I just dont see why he has to lie so damn much. Nick has asked me several times what he should do and I tell him to do whatever it takes to recoop some of his time and money wasted on his whole JDM experience. On top of all this I feel like a total *** for refering him to JDM seeing how he got lied to several times during the time Jim had his truck and after he got it back and the thing wouldnt even run. I personally drove the truck after Nick picked it up and it made me sick to my stomach to hear how much he got charged compared to how ****ty it ran. I know that Jim was upset that Nick wanted to go back with the same engine, even after Jim said that the pistons were **** but seeing how many lies he has told Nick im not even certain that the pictures Jim emailed Nick was even his engine. Im not bashing Jim or JDM. Im just so disgusted that Jim has bull****ted and lied to one of my best friends and I am the whole reason that Nick chose JDM. This isnt the only customer of mine that I have had problems getting things from JDM with. Leonard ordered a flip chip and paid for 2nd day air. Credit card billed and never recieved chip. Graeme spent a ton of money and his truck ran like total ****. He ended up selling his truck because he was so disgusted with JDM. When will the bull****ting ever end??????

Keith.....

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Promodlightning
Mateus, you know better than that, the only thing REM did for me was to take my money and run. I posted a reconciliation, just to be more of a man than they will ever be, and I will never buy sh** from them again. REM refused to do anything for me. So everywhere I go till the end of my time, like in the "Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner", will be to spread the good word[QUOTE]




YOU TELL ME WHERE PROMOD RESOLVED ANYTHING WITH REM WITH THAT LAST QUOTE!!!!

 

Keith,

I am truly sorry for all the BS that you and your customers
have been put through ... It is, as has been pointed out many
times around here, a total lack if integrity that brings this stuff
on. I truly believe that one of the biggest problems with said
vendor is that he got too big, too soon, and cash flow caused a
good many supply problems. I am in no way defending Jim, but
we did talk and shake hands at LightningFest this year after two
years of acrimonious debate on the internet, phone, and e-mails.

Perhaps the best way to handle this is "Burn me once, shame on
you, burn me twice, shame on me!"

It is rather interesting how emotional one can get when the
affront involves you, isn't it? As I recall, my well documented
problems were pretty much laughed off by the JDM supporters
around here. Hmmmmmm, Very Interesting ... Shoe's on the
other foot now, eh?

Cliff

 

This is just another reason to leave my 03L stock!

Chas

 

That is what happens when you have high boost and nitrous. Nick has had a fast Lightning since his 1999 was almost new. That is expensive because it costs a lot for trial and error.

 

OK, OK No more accusations about Nick being a troll.

I know Nick also. He has no reason to make all this ***** up, It is ALL TRUE.

I hate to say anything bad against JDM, I like Jim personally, but his business dealings sometimes really suck. Nick got a raw deal from JDM.

Nick has tried to work it out with JDM..

Keith wanted JDM to tune/work on one of his best friends trucks, probably one of the FIRST fastest Lightning trucks around.
I told Nick about my previous business problems with JDM, Even suggested he get JLP to tune/work on his truck because JLP has had the most time with the KB and you never know whether you will get treated the same way each time you deal with JDM. Sometimes he's great, sometimes he's NOT. JLP treats everyone good. Keith and Nick were roomates at the time, so I decided to stay out of where Nick should take his truck to get worked on. I thought since Keith was a loyal customer of JDM, Nick would get treated really well.

It was sad to hear about all this ***** once Nick got his truck back from JDM.

 

I met Nick down at NMRA World Finals in BG a few weeks ago. He is a cool guy. We all shot the ***** at dinner.

I think it's funny how everyone on the internet thinks there are NO OTHER fast vehicles out there unless they are documented on a web forum somewhere. Nick has been pushing Lightnings to the limits since day 1.........hence the 3 motors. Hell how do you think all those TN guys got hooked on the spray

--Joe

 

Nick,

I drove Nick's truck around and put about 300 miles on it to make sure when he picked it up that everything would be good for his thousand mile trip back to TN. He made it home fine and drove it around for a couple weeks. He decided to go to the track and at the track the truck would stall on him. I thought it was in the chip so I sent him a new one and the new one did the same thing. It turns out that I was given the wrong information from NGK and we started to use the "8" plugs in our Kenne Bell trucks. Big mistake, it was causing spark blow out. As for his supercharger, that was a mistake on our end. We had six or seven KB's here. His work order said that he wanted a 3 inch pulley so we installed the one that had 3 inch pulley on the snout. This I had already explained to Nick. As for the cams, you can ask Don's Bolt, HDMLNIUM, and SKNHD, we do work very hard to get the idle nice. He did not like that. He wanted a real rumpy cam. He made the decision to go to a different cam and I told him I would give him a refund on his cams to keep him happy. So he sends the cams back with a COD of nearly $1400.... I will give him a refund for the camshafts, the spark plugs, and labor for the spark plug change. As for the injectors, all the KB trucks are running either 50's or 55's and that you just need. So, Nick..Putting this on the boards with all the extra's I have done for you and your truck for free while it was here I've learned one thing. I should've billed you correctly for both blown head gaskets and reconditioning your heads and block surface and all the other work that was done to it. This way when I give you a refund on the cams I might break even on the job instead of going in the red. It also cost me over $300 to get your truck back here between gas and tolls that I did not charge you for besides the fact of paying Shaun for the day of driving it. So, resend the package for the price of the cams, spark plugs, and 2 hours labor to change the spark plugs and I'll accept it.

Jim@JDM

 

man you need to read the mans story and qiut posting the same thing. you made you point, you love jdm

 

Glad to see Jim chime in - Hopefully things will work out for everyone.

15 minutes of reading a lot of this cr@p in here, 5% of it was useful.


I have NOTHING bad to say about any of the tuners, I've had great experience with any I have dealt with - JLP, Chikenears, Outrageous Performance...

There's always some things people miss when telling a story - it's not their fault, but you just need to weed through all the facts, and make sure everything is up front and expained by both parties.

This whole ordeal sounds to me like there was a lot more to it, and I'm not choosing ANY sides, just saying that some people need to drop the bashing of each other, and put in useful information. If you don't have anything pertinent to the conversation to add, keep it to yourself.

 

Nick,

In order to attempt your truck from stalling. I sent you out loaner chips and you have not returned them yet. It gets quite expensive when customers don't return loaner chips. In fact, between you and your roommate Keith which is 10SecL their is four of them. One flip chip and three single chips which if you add it up it is quite a sum of money. I know Keith has his own Superchip burner because I sold it to him. Hopefully he didn't mistake the loaner chips for his chips and then sold them. Now, it comes to the point that I will not refund him for the cams until I get my loaner chips back.

Jim@JDM

 

Keyword...YOU have never heard of people having issues with REM....Remember only 1/4 of Lightning owners go on the internet.

Also some people like me never post...and even if i did post about my problems..half of the members would jump on the tuner bandwagon and defend them...and since i dont have 11,000 posts...I would be just another troll

 

Just my .02...

I have dealt with both JDM and PSP in the past and have had nothing but good relations with them. I have met Jim once a couple years ago and he did everything he could for me at the the track that day including a custom tune and pulley install. I have spoke to him several times on the phone and he has answered my questions promptly.

Same scenario with Sal at PSP. Have never personally met him, but have talked to him on the phone a few times. He even sent me a chip just to try in my truck at the track and let me send it back to him afterwards, WITHOUT even purchasing anything from PSP until that point!

So we've had good and bad relationships with different tuners...fact is, they make our trucks run like scalded apes and they all have great products

I think it's fine to post your experiences, but bashing gets out of hand. I am not defending anyone, but I think it is wrong to judge a person (Nick) or a company (JDM) unless you were there and witnessed what happened. Accusations are just that. It will always be a war of words, but it always comes down to what REALLY happened...and there are only a couple or a handful of people at the most that REALLY know that...

 

Jim thats all you can say... you know the reason I haven't sent back your loaner chip. You took my flip super chip out of my truck and took my jlp breather cap and haven't sent them back to me like you said you would...