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From: Somewhere in the EU
And speaking of those rising gas prices....
Here in Westwood/West Los Angeles
(UCLA country) gas at the local Chevron Station has gone up about 15 cents a gallon in the past three weeks...now at 2.10 per gallon for 91 octane.
So that $33,000 is looking like a low end figure.
Here in Westwood/West Los Angeles
(UCLA country) gas at the local Chevron Station has gone up about 15 cents a gallon in the past three weeks...now at 2.10 per gallon for 91 octane.
So that $33,000 is looking like a low end figure.
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From: The People's Republic of Los Angeles
As usual, I'll play the skeptic.
MPG observations on anything other than a test jig or in a fleet where the driver's do not know that the milage is being monitored are next to worthless.
The plain fact is that there are too many things that can affect mileage -- the most important of which is the driver. I doubt that there is any device in the world which would not be observed to save gas. It's a self-fulfilling prophesy.
MPG observations on anything other than a test jig or in a fleet where the driver's do not know that the milage is being monitored are next to worthless.
The plain fact is that there are too many things that can affect mileage -- the most important of which is the driver. I doubt that there is any device in the world which would not be observed to save gas. It's a self-fulfilling prophesy.
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From: Southern Cal
I'd like to thank the "Kings of Math" for doing the calcs of The Free KB via 1 mpg. I see I must either drive more miles(Weekly) or plan on keeping this truck for a few more years than I usually keep a vehicle.
Tim Skelton keeping stats(MPG) on you vehicle is a very easy procedure. Key Word.<<<<<Average>>>>>Not a 1 time event.
You keep tract of your fill ups (Gasoline Used / miles driven and equate MPG.
You don't need any special equipment ie "Test Jig", Nor do you need to alter you driving style.
All the driving variables <<<<<Average>>>>> in.
Tim Skelton keeping stats(MPG) on you vehicle is a very easy procedure. Key Word.<<<<<Average>>>>>Not a 1 time event.
You keep tract of your fill ups (Gasoline Used / miles driven and equate MPG.
You don't need any special equipment ie "Test Jig", Nor do you need to alter you driving style.
All the driving variables <<<<<Average>>>>> in.
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From: Los Angeles and San Luis Obispo
2 weeks ago when i last filled up gas was $1.86 per gallon. now all of a sudden today it was $2.06!!! what the heck happen for prices to go up 20 cents in 2 weeks? Was it that black out in new york or something, j/k.
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From: The People's Republic of Los Angeles
Originally posted by SoCal-L
. . . You don't need any special equipment ie "Test Jig", Nor do you need to alter you driving style.
All the driving variables <<<<<Average>>>>> in. . .
. . . You don't need any special equipment ie "Test Jig", Nor do you need to alter you driving style.
All the driving variables <<<<<Average>>>>> in. . .
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Originally posted by Tim Skelton:
You missed the point -- people DO alter their driving style. That's usually why they get better mileage.>>>>>
Driving conditions do vary but AVERAGING is the point
\ Throw a deck of cards in the air.....Alter the way you throw them. Count the # of face cards that turn face up. Do that 100 times. Now average your results. Repeat the process.
51 Area Station
MCCS 51091 MCB
Camp Pendelton
Ca. 92055
PUMP PRODUCT PPU
05 PREM $1.859
VOLUMN TOTAL
14.020G $ 26.06
TRANS# 01280
08/16/03 08:29AM
w/this fillup Today 171 miles......... I'm on my way to having this KB pay for itself......
Couple hundred thousand more miles to go
You missed the point -- people DO alter their driving style. That's usually why they get better mileage.>>>>>
Driving conditions do vary but AVERAGING is the point
\ Throw a deck of cards in the air.....Alter the way you throw them. Count the # of face cards that turn face up. Do that 100 times. Now average your results. Repeat the process.
51 Area Station
MCCS 51091 MCB
Camp Pendelton
Ca. 92055
PUMP PRODUCT PPU
05 PREM $1.859
VOLUMN TOTAL
14.020G $ 26.06
TRANS# 01280
08/16/03 08:29AM
w/this fillup Today 171 miles......... I'm on my way to having this KB pay for itself......
Couple hundred thousand more miles to go
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From: This side of the Milky Way
Originally posted by Silver_2000
1.90*17,368 gallons = $33,000.00 Dollars of gas to drive 208,421 miles
Earth-moon distances:
"Perigee 363,300 km
Mean 384,400 km
Apogee 405,500 km"*
384,400 km = 238,712 miles
Pretty good investment, you're doing much better than NASA speaking strictly on a $ per mile basis
. I hope I did the conversion correctly, wouldn't want another Mars probe to crash into Mars at the cost of our tax $$$. 
*Source: NASA
1.90*17,368 gallons = $33,000.00 Dollars of gas to drive 208,421 miles
Earth-moon distances:
"Perigee 363,300 km
Mean 384,400 km
Apogee 405,500 km"*
384,400 km = 238,712 miles
Pretty good investment, you're doing much better than NASA speaking strictly on a $ per mile basis
. I hope I did the conversion correctly, wouldn't want another Mars probe to crash into Mars at the cost of our tax $$$. *Source: NASA
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Originally posted by Tim Skelton
As usual, I'll play the skeptic.
MPG observations on anything other than a test jig or in a fleet where the driver's do not know that the milage is being monitored are next to worthless.
The plain fact is that there are too many things that can affect mileage -- the most important of which is the driver. I doubt that there is any device in the world which would not be observed to save gas. It's a self-fulfilling prophesy.
As usual, I'll play the skeptic.
MPG observations on anything other than a test jig or in a fleet where the driver's do not know that the milage is being monitored are next to worthless.
The plain fact is that there are too many things that can affect mileage -- the most important of which is the driver. I doubt that there is any device in the world which would not be observed to save gas. It's a self-fulfilling prophesy.
John
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From: Orlando, FL
You guys forgot a few things..............The present value cost of your KB today, is substantially different from your cost 4 years from now, in true DOLLARS TO DOLLARS..............furthermore, you can figure on an average inflation increase of about 3 to 5% annually, which increases your BREAK-EVEN timeframe by a small percentage!
Just adding pointless and useless facts to an already STRANGE/WEIRD thread.
JC
Just adding pointless and useless facts to an already STRANGE/WEIRD thread.
JC
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From: Orland Park, IL just south of chicago
Let me drive your truck for work and I'll get your money's worth in no time! I average about 60,000 miles a year just on my work car!
My 2001 grand prix has 123,000 miles on it right now, HAHAHAHA>.
My 2001 grand prix has 123,000 miles on it right now, HAHAHAHA>.