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Old Jun 29, 2003 | 12:38 AM
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Borla or ?

Hello everyone, I am new here. I own a 2001 Lightning. The only modifications I have is a JDM Cold air intake kit and a hypertech programer III. I want a good sounding exhaust does anybody have a borla ? If so how does it sound? Any recommendations is apreciated Thanks!

Stock in 1/4 mile
13.8 @ 100 mph
2.0 60ft with f1's

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1.93 ft with f1's
 
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Old Jun 29, 2003 | 12:52 AM
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I had the Borla before I switched to the Silver Bullet from JDM. The fit and finish of the Borla can't be touched. They have a nice unique tone under medium and hard throttle acceleration; but, they are only slightly louder than stock. They would sound better behind headers and high-flow cats, I'm sure. Without the headers and cats though, you would probably like the Bassani better, or maybe one of the different magnaflow systems that are available from either JDM or REM. Most of the supporting venders carry the Bassani, if that is your preference.

There will be a lot of opinions on what system is the best. In the end, make sure you hear the system you want, before you chose one over another.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2003 | 12:57 AM
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My vote goes to the Magnaflow catback. Under 400 for a full stainless steel catback suits my fancy!
 
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Old Jun 29, 2003 | 12:59 AM
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Re: Borla or ?

Originally posted by svtjulian
Hello everyone, I am new here. I own a 2001 Lightning. The only modifications I have is a JDM Cold air intake kit and a hypertech programer III. I want a good sounding exhaust does anybody have a borla ? If so how does it sound? Any recommendations is apreciated Thanks!

Stock in 1/4 mile
13.8 @ 100 mph
2.0 60ft with f1's

Now
13.48 @102
1.93 ft with f1's
Just did the Bassani catback and catless pipe. I dont believe there is a better sounding setup-PERIOD! If you cant afford both go with the bassani catback first then a couple months later get the cat pipe. I scare anything or anyone in my path. I recommend using LFP (MARk) good service,quick delivery. You wont be disappointed.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2003 | 01:04 AM
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www. exhaustsoundclips.com

Hey Julian,
Go to www.exhaustsoundclips.com and check out the sound for your ford lightning with the bassani setup and the silverbullets yourself. Let me know what you think.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2003 | 01:28 AM
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Go with straight pipes. nothing is louder, it is loud adn raspy and much cheaper. i have had many catbacks and i like the straight pipes the best. Get any nice tips and weld them on. If you cant weld your exhaust shop will do it. If you like it loud, that is the way to go.

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Old Jun 29, 2003 | 11:35 AM
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I have the Borla... sound is very nice outside the truck... no real noticible noise gain inside the truck.

Just a little deeper... fit and finish is excellent... installed myself in the garage.... took only about an hour... and that was because 30 minutes is tugging the stock muffler off!

I am really pleased w/ the Borla!

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Old Jun 29, 2003 | 12:07 PM
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I put the Borla on my 03 Lightning last weekend.
I had one previously on my 99 Lightning and liked it.

Why did I do it again?
Why didn't I get the Magnaflow? Tough call...The Magnaflow system is very nice as well...but I didn't want an overly loud system.
I forgot how lousy it (the Borla) sounds at WOT when it is new. It does get better as you put more miles on it. When new it kind of sounds like a blatting sound....Great sound at idle and cruising though. Also...I didn't want to wake the neighbors up everytime I go out.

Finish was excellent. The system is put together very, very well. Fit wasn't the greatest. I had to cut the lower pipe by 1/2" and open it a bit to get it to fit correctly due to the welded hanger on the cat pipe. So...their tolerences aren't perfect but then again, I wasn't expecting it to be.

HOWEVER....I have an idea as to why that "blatting" sound is happening. It is in fact the phantom tips on that system. The openings are smaller than the actual tip. In July, I am going to order a set of intercooled tips with a larger opening, weld them in and this should help the system sound a bit better at WOT. Tips can make a bit of a difference on the overall sound of the system. This worked on my previous vehicle which had a similar setup with that sytle of tip. I had this same sound so, I put the larger tips on and it just sounded 100% better. Strange as it may seem....

Gains? Definitely more power in the 3000 RPM up area. You can especially feel the truck breath better on the highway when you stomp on it.

Paul G.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2003 | 06:39 PM
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Ok....I just went out an measured my tips with a caliper. The tip itself is 3" but that is the outer sleeve of it. The internal pipe inside the tip is reduced to 2 1/4". This isn't right on a 2.5" exhaust. While it may be a small detail and not many care....I'd rather all the gas be getting out of there. I bet it will make a difference in the overall sound of the system.

I'm ordering a couple of 3.5" Borla intercooled tips for the system. They are 2.5" in an 3.5 out. The length may be slightly different but I can add a stainless sleeve if needed. Should work much better and besides, I like the looks of those tips better. It will probably fill up that area where the exhaust exits and look more like the Bassani or the Magnaflow setup.

I'll post a couple of pics when I get it done. I am out of cord for my TIG welder so I'll have to order some of that as well on Monday.

Paul G.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2003 | 06:44 PM
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Ok....I just went out an measured my tips with a caliper. The tip itself is 3" but that is the outer sleeve of it. The internal pipe inside the tip is reduced to 2 1/4". This isn't right on a 2.5" exhaust. While it may be a small detail and not many care....I'd rather all the gas be getting out of there. I bet it will make a difference in the overall sound of the system.

I'm ordering a couple of 3.5" Borla intercooled tips for the system. They are 2.5" in an 3.5 out. The length may be slightly different but I can add a stainless sleeve if needed. Should work much better and besides, I like the looks of those tips better. It will probably fill up that area where the exhaust exits and look more like the Bassani or the Magnaflow setup.

I'll post a couple of pics when I get it done. I am out of cord for my TIG welder so I'll have to order some of that as well on Monday.

Paul G.
I'd like to know how that works out. I still have my Borla catback stored. Keep us posted.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2003 | 09:37 PM
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borla or?

bassani
 
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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 12:50 PM
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No problemo!



I'll have some time to weld it up during the last week of July. I'll post a few pics then!

Paul G.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 12:56 PM
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those sound clips sound horrible ... based on those clips I wouldnt use any of them...but they dont sound like that in person anyhow
 
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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 01:48 PM
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Originally posted by Vinny
Go with straight pipes. nothing is louder, it is loud adn raspy and much cheaper. i have had many catbacks and i like the straight pipes the best. Get any nice tips and weld them on. If you cant weld your exhaust shop will do it. If you like it loud, that is the way to go.

Vinny
Long tubes, no cats and a muffler so I can go to the track and meet requirements is what I have. It is very loud and I'm sure my neighbors don't like it , but who cares?

Borla says they designed their muffler to flow better than stock. They said the muffler didn't need to be 2.5" out of the muffler because the further the exhaust gas travels the less space it needs due to cooling. I wrote concerning the size over a year ago.
 
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