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Old Jun 7, 2003 | 01:17 PM
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Jagged Edge is in Gainesville this weekend among many others at Fun Ford Weekend.He passed tech and qualified in the 11s on Friday.On Saturday,tech came to JE and said he had been reported for using a cage that didnt meet spec,by another racer.The item in question was the way that the roll cage was welded to the truck.Tech never actually looked at the way the cage was,or was not,joined to the frame.Yet they informed him they knew that it was illegal due to a report from an inside source that knew it was illegal and that if he ran better than 12.0 he would be disqualified.

This cage was built and installed by Race Related.There are only a few people that knew it wasnt actually installed to specs.Among them is
JE,James@Race Related and of course JR.Everyone knows that JR is embedded in Race Relateds business and is privy to all information involved there.

Since an inside source reported this infraction,causing JE to be disqualified,it is very important that you consider carefully where you have any work done on your vehicle if you ever intend to participate in any sanctioned events.No matter what advice you get from the shop,insist that any safety equipment be installed strictly according to spec and that you understand what the specs are. Be very aware that your decisions may come back to bite you in the ***,no matter who advised you.If any shop you do business with becomes suspect in your mind,avoid them.Even though all parties involved in a shop may not be to blame,it only takes one ****head competing against you to use whatever information they have to eliminate you.

Jagged Edge will be be able to correct this infraction and he is only being disqualified for this event.We dont know what else may be in question at the next event,since JE wasnt present at the time that all mods were being done.The fact that someone on the inside may know more and use that info as they need, to cause JE to be ejected is going to cause JE to spend tons more money to have the truck inspected and anything wrong corrected.This is just the kind of BS that can be easily avoided if you choose your associations carefully.It is truly sad that such a lowlife could ever be a part of this community but the facts are what they are.It is incumbent upon you to avoid anyone that you feel is untrustworthy.

JEs truck nightmares are extending further in every direction.I hope this can serve as an example that will help others avoid this.Be aware that your biggest enemy could turn out to be a scumbag piece of ***** that posts right here on the same site that you do.Please be warned and pass it to others.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2003 | 01:41 PM
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Let's see people are competing for money. I see nothing wrong with someone reporting a violation of safety rules. Does JE have aftermarket rear axles, sfi harmonic balancer and flexplate, flexplate shield? I think those are also required at that level...
 
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Old Jun 7, 2003 | 01:57 PM
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this isnt about pro racing, this isnt about safety, this isnt even about money...this is about being a scumbag!
 
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Old Jun 7, 2003 | 02:00 PM
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Rules are Rules dude. Abide by them or be gone.

The rules are setup for your safety as well as the safety of others. When rules arent followed, innocent people can get hurt or even killed.

There are alot more illegal high dollar cages out there, so I am sure this is only the start.


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Old Jun 7, 2003 | 02:03 PM
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Originally posted by Grey03
Rules are Rules dude. Abide by them or be gone.

The rules are setup for your safety as well as the safety of others. When rules arent followed, innocent people can get hurt or even killed.

There are alot more illegal high dollar cages out there, so I am sure this is only the start.


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Old Jun 7, 2003 | 02:16 PM
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From what I read the issue is that only a couple of guys that knew about it were also involved in it.This means they sold him something that wasnt legal then reported it at an event.Thats the most underhanded thing I can think of.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2003 | 02:30 PM
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Originally posted by Crash-n-Burn
From what I read the issue is that only a couple of guys that knew about it were also involved in it.This means they sold him something that wasnt legal then reported it at an event.Thats the most underhanded thing I can think of.
Well it isn't like they sold him an illegal cage claiming it was a legal cage. **** said, "There are only a few people that knew it wasnt actually installed to specs.Among them is
JE..."
So what is the problem?
Granted it probably isn't good for business, but that is life. This is a doggy dog world.
If I go street racing(tonight) and get caught, that's life. If some snitch gave out the location, that's not good for him, but it is ultimately my fault.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2003 | 02:44 PM
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Originally posted by Crash-n-Burn
From what I read the issue is that only a couple of guys that knew about it were also involved in it.This means they sold him something that wasnt legal then reported it at an event.Thats the most underhanded thing I can think of.
Where did you read this
 
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Old Jun 7, 2003 | 03:31 PM
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Okay. So the cage was illegal. It would not have been right to let him run. Fine.

But the idea that the very people who sold you the cage would drop a dime on you is, as stated above, "underhanded" to be polite. One possible exception: if the vendor did not know in advance that you would attempt to run the cage at a race.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2003 | 03:41 PM
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Who knows for sure that he got turned into the roll bar police. Some of those tech guys actually know there job and do it well.

Up here in the northwest there are at least 3 tracks that I wont even mess with. If I go to race there I have to be legal and thats that.
I know of a couple of turbo buicks in the area that all had there bars done by the same guy. They were all caught for having the wrong size tubing in the main hoop. These guys were caught even though the bars were padded. The bad part is the owners of the cars didn't know they were illegal and when they went back to the shop that did the work, his excuse was "he didn't have the proper tooling to bend 1 3/4 " so he just put in 1 5/8" instead. Now these bars have to come out.
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Old Jun 7, 2003 | 03:42 PM
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Damn that is *****ty. *****-footed ****s.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2003 | 03:47 PM
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In that case I believe many tuner trucks would fail as well, if you really wanna get into the rulebook (NHRA). Easterisland hit the main points above. Did James install a non legal cage, then report Ron at the track?
 
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Old Jun 7, 2003 | 04:04 PM
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FM: Did you get that from Mark or did he get it from you? I saw his post 'over there' and it was the same.

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Old Jun 7, 2003 | 04:09 PM
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I xfered that post over here. I feel everyone should know about this.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2003 | 12:28 AM
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Originally posted by rscoleman
In that case I believe many tuner trucks would fail as well,
if you really wanna get into the rulebook (NHRA).
I have heard the same thing. Only a loosely run organization
would slack off on the tech end of racing. The liability is just too
damn high! Best bet is to go buy the dayum rule book and read it
like the SCCA folks make you do.....
 
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