Whoa -that's great!!! I'm thankful that you're making this public and I hope the outcome is on your side!

 

I know that, you know that, and the rest of this board knows that.

Problem is will the average jury know that? If stats are skewed it will sway the jury even more, and could be harder to disprove. Who to believe, a guy on a board who took his truck back without paying or a huge company that has been around for along time and can afford to have a huge team of lawyers?

Thats what I see as the problem.

 

Jeff, did you not agree to allow the dealer to repair your vehicle AFTER Ford denied the warranty claim? If so, you have no case against the dealership's charges against you.

On the other hand, against Ford, for denial of warranty, you just may.

 

I never agreed to anything... except for the price of $69.00 dollars for an estimate.. Which I was informed should be paid by warranty. The only thing I accept is that
I will be in court. I took my vehicle in for warranty service under a 2 year 24000 mile warranty on a long block assembly that had 13000 miles on it in less than a year. I was denied warranty for what is being called.."PCM Tampering".
No definition of this was offered.
The inspector was an independent..paid by Ford.
The dealer installed the motor and made profit off of these services and parts. They are liable for them just as Ford is. I Offered the police my complete cooperation in their call to my home. I offered to go with them and surrender my truck as well. They informed me if they believe a felony had be commited by me they could and would arrest me without a warrant.
They did not ..I insisted they take me to jail. They did not.
I believe and still do that my long block is under warranty.
You may speculate as you wish.

I am the one that will be there.....

I'm not posting this to garner sympathy.

Think what you will...

I do.

 

THIS IS ****ING AMERICA
INNOCENT UNTIL PROVING GUILTY


Where is Fords Prove that you had Mods
Where's the pictures
Where's the Ford People that witnessed them on your truck
Does anyone make ANYTHING ELSE besides a Chip that plugs into that computer board ??? ANYTHING, some kind of diagnostic equipment would be perfect ???? ANYTHING ???

And even if they have Post and Pictures
WHATS THAT PROVE ???
Can you see the VIN #
Is is absolutely positively YOUR truck ???

Oh they saw it on the internet, it must be true right ???
I think any Lawyer can prove that point aint worth a schitt.

Fight them tooth to nail
YOU WILL WIN

 

All this talk of Ford denying warranties is really starting to pi$$ me off. They did the same thing to me. I wanted to choke that fu(king service manager sooooooo bad. At that point I told him to put my got damned truck back together. I asked him how much it would be for the work they performed. He just smiled and said "no charge". I was sooooo pissed at that point. Never again will I take my truck to the dealership. Not even to change the fu(king fog lights. That's why I am installing my built long block myself. Rob_02 is right. **** FORD!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I love it when people call foul when their warranty is denied. Here you go again, "you play, you pay." Maybe they'll auction off your truck on eBay to recoup their money.

 

If you cut me -I bleed Ford blue but I'm really disenchanted with buying a new truck that I'm scared to touch in fear of a voided warranty. I've lusted over Lightnings since 93 and realized the dream in 01...here it is 03 and my trucks motor is still bone stock (and completely trouble free...only fair to state that too) I've often thought of selling it as I'm much happier driving my old Mustang that I can actually play with.

Hey FORD it's called future considerations, I'm considering never buying your "new" vehicles again...not until I'm like 60 or something.

 

I'm confused, you gave them $69.00 for an estimate, and they took it upon themselves to repair your truck without asking you if it was okay?

So you're saying this whole time they had your truck you didn't know they were fixing it, yet you knew when it was finished being repaired, since you took it from their premises?

I'm very confused, and you post a lot of back and forth mumbo jumbo. Give us the low down on the facts. Did you authorize them to repair your truck? If you didn't, why in the hell did they then?

 

I wonder how you would know>???

Twisted, goodluck brother. I certainly hope everything works out good for you! You have our support! -Mat-

 

Is small claims court, where lawyers don't mean too much, an option?

 

O2 Lightning..

They were speaking Mumbo Jumbo to me at the dealership.

Everytime I have ever taken a vehicle in for work under warranty it has always been repaired. They never asked me if I wanted the work done...they just did it.
I have a contract for the service in hand.
I never signed ..It states when signing this contract that I agree to pay for the charges from the estimate. I signed only for an estimate.

The statement that allows them to proceed is still blank ..My signature of approval is not on it.

I never signed it. I never told them to install it......

Anything claimed otherwise is hear say....

I signed a contract when I purchased this truck new. In it it says I have a warranty. Period....When the last last longblock was installed The dealership informed me I had warranty..

I have stated this before....

Do you understand yet?

 

So...any thoughts on the validity of a service agreement/contract. With a Dealership.

Or are they like the warranty...Not worth the paper, I didn't sign on.....

 

Contracts(agreement to perform work) can be done with written consent or verbal consent. It's always better to have a contract in writing, spelling out all the details of the work to be performed, but an oral agreement can also be very binding. The fact that you took the truck out of the dealership without consent doesn't help your case though. If you were willing to fight this to the end and go to court over the matter, you would have probably been better off getting the truck fixed and then taken the dealer and Ford to court. Good luck.

 

If there is a piece of paper that "requires" a signature then the "verbal" consent don't mean *****. Looks like the dealer is screwed...

It won't matter what the dealer states in court, you have the paper and it is BLANK for permission to do work on your truck.

In court it really don't matter what "he said, she said" the guy has a piece of paper, a BINDING contract to perform repairs, and it is NOT signed. You have to play that up in court. Regardless of what you may have stated at the dealer DENY EVERYTHING that may make you look bad and just keep PUSHING and MAKING the point that you told them to NOT repair the truck without your written permission and that you ONLY wanted them to give you the esimate.

If the judge is not brain dead he will turn to the dealer and ask:

"If you have a binding contract that you use to get written permission to perform repairs, why did you NOT have him sign it?" "Rather then that you are trying to tell me he just gave you a verbal ok?"

"Sorry, you lose..."

The "verbal" agreement might play in court if it was some guy conducting business out of his own garage, but this is a dealership, they are suppose to be a "professional" business. The dealer does not have these binding contracts because they think it is good, they have it because the LAW requires them to because of past practices of @sswipes screwing the public.

My opinion, looks like someone is going to lose their job at the dealership.