FTVB = belt slippage????
My truck started making a belt slipping noise with anything but light throttle every time on the 2/3 shift right after I put a FTVB in. My guess is that the motor decelerates quicker for a split sec. and the blower can’t keep up and the belt slips. The noise is a little worse when I let off the gas right before it shifts. What do you guy’s think, is this possible? Has anyone else experienced this? It doesn’t slip enough to squeal and I have no pulleys on my truck with 8584 miles
Mine slips only when I let off right before a shift. If yours is slipping under moderate to heavy acceleration? I'd check for proper tension from the tensioner. Or maybe a too long of a belt?
One thing to keep in mind everyone. Is that when you absolutely STOP the slippage. You also increase the loads placed on ALL the F.E.A.D component assemblies. (front end accessory drive)
This increased load puts a higher than designed load on the castings, brackets, and their individual bearings.
Just a word to the wise, WOT
One thing to keep in mind everyone. Is that when you absolutely STOP the slippage. You also increase the loads placed on ALL the F.E.A.D component assemblies. (front end accessory drive)
This increased load puts a higher than designed load on the castings, brackets, and their individual bearings.
Just a word to the wise, WOT
I was experiencing the same thing, and emailed Greg Evans. According to him, this is not uncommon. His recommended fix was to make the switch to a Gatorback belt. I changed the belt and the problem has mostly gone away. I still get it once in a while on the 2-3.
Hmmmmmm. I'm not convinced it's belt slippage--but it may be? Look for rubber dust on the castings behind/near the idler pulleys. If it turns out to be belt slippage, get one of these:
http://www.goodyearbeltsandhose.com/cars/gatopoly.html
and your "squaels" are over!
Btw, did you check the trans's fluid level--carefully and properly?
Dan
http://www.goodyearbeltsandhose.com/cars/gatopoly.html
and your "squaels" are over!
Btw, did you check the trans's fluid level--carefully and properly?
Dan
Originally posted by wydopnthrtl
One thing to keep in mind everyone. Is that when you absolutely STOP the slippage. You also increase the loads placed on ALL the F.E.A.D component assemblies. (front end accessory drive)
This increased load puts a higher than designed load on the castings, brackets, and their individual bearings.
Just a word to the wise, WOT
One thing to keep in mind everyone. Is that when you absolutely STOP the slippage. You also increase the loads placed on ALL the F.E.A.D component assemblies. (front end accessory drive)
This increased load puts a higher than designed load on the castings, brackets, and their individual bearings.
Just a word to the wise, WOT
--Joe
When you suddenly slow everything that is rotating at a high rpm, there is a spike load placed in a certian designed vector. Usually this comes from the A/C compressor and under certian circumstances. We design the castings, brackets, bearings & pulleys based on this in conjunction with everything else that's going on.
But now the sudden *acceleration* (deceleration to ya'll) comes at a different and undesigned time/load. This spike in load is obviously greater cause now the *acceleration* is greater. Resulting in belt slippage. (both or either belts. Does'nt matter which) Fortunatley the vectors are the same and we've built in a safety factor.
If a guy is interested in longevity? I'm recommending that you just live with it. If you want no noise? Then get a better belt like the gatorback. But you'll wear out everything faster that way.
For what it's worth, I'm running the stock belt w/a 4# lower and only get a squeak when I let off right before a shift.
WOT
But now the sudden *acceleration* (deceleration to ya'll) comes at a different and undesigned time/load. This spike in load is obviously greater cause now the *acceleration* is greater. Resulting in belt slippage. (both or either belts. Does'nt matter which) Fortunatley the vectors are the same and we've built in a safety factor.

If a guy is interested in longevity? I'm recommending that you just live with it. If you want no noise? Then get a better belt like the gatorback. But you'll wear out everything faster that way.
For what it's worth, I'm running the stock belt w/a 4# lower and only get a squeak when I let off right before a shift.
WOT
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Thanks for all the input guy’s. I’ve checked my Trans fluid a bunch of times on a level surface and looks to be good. I’m thinking of disconnecting the blower and driving it to see if it will repeat, my guess is no. I’m sure if something’s slipping it would be the blower seeing how it has the most rotating mass.
It very well could be both. My CrownVic does it at full song. (shift kit and 4.10s) Been that way for 30k + miles on the same belt.
I really would'nt sweat it other than to check the pressure on the tensioner.
WOT
I really would'nt sweat it other than to check the pressure on the tensioner.
WOT
Originally posted by wydopnthrtl
It very well could be both. My CrownVic does it at full song. (shift kit and 4.10s) Been that way for 30k + miles on the same belt.
I really would'nt sweat it other than to check the pressure on the tensioner.
WOT
It very well could be both. My CrownVic does it at full song. (shift kit and 4.10s) Been that way for 30k + miles on the same belt.
I really would'nt sweat it other than to check the pressure on the tensioner.
WOT
When you say check the pressure on the tensioner, I wouldn't know what kind of pressure should be on there?
If it were really weak, that would be the only way I would think it was bad?
Last edited by 69stangscj; Apr 28, 2003 at 06:17 PM.
Keep in mind, it could be the idler/tensioner pulley(s):
https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...=pulley+grease
Dan
https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...=pulley+grease
Dan
Originally posted by SpankDog
Do guys with electric fans still get squeals? I was thinking that it might be the fan belt.........and not the S/C belt afterall.
Do guys with electric fans still get squeals? I was thinking that it might be the fan belt.........and not the S/C belt afterall.
Mine squeels, but I have to agree with wydopnthrtl when he says that it really isn't a bad thing to have it slip under extreme pressures. But I think that it's the SC belt and not the FEAD belt.
It used to bother me, but no that I know what it is it doesn't bother me too much anymore. If my belt wears out I'll probably opt for a gator belt.



